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PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:26 pm 
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MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russia said on Wednesday it wanted to supply Syria with advanced missile systems, a move certain to anger the United States which accuses Syria of having links to terrorism.

Russia had long denied reports it wanted to sell missiles to Syria, its Cold War-era ally. The United States and Israel have urged Moscow to drop any such plans, saying Russian arms supplies would only strengthen militants in the Middle East.

"Talks are underway with this country to sell it Strelets air defense short-range missile systems," the Defense Ministry said in a statement.

The statement said Strelets missiles are not man-portable and can only be used when attached to a heavy vehicle -- which officials believe makes them less attractive to militants than the relatively cheap and easy-to-use shoulder-fired missiles.

Earlier this week, a senior U.S. diplomat in Moscow said the United States remained concerned over any arms trading with Syria that could lead to missile technology falling into the hands of terrorists.

"Our bottom line is that they (the Russians) should not be providing any military assistance to Syria since they are a sponsor of terrorism," said the diplomat, speaking on condition of anonymity.

Relations between the United States and Syria are already tense and the killing of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik al-Hariri this week has further strained them.

U.S. officials say Syria's military presence and political power-broking role are responsible for Lebanon's instability and on Tuesday Washington recalled its ambassador to Syria and said it was considering imposing new sanctions on Damascus.

SHOULDER-FIRED MISSILES

The news of Moscow's intention comes just days before Russian President Vladimir Putin and President Bush are due to sign a deal to curb trade in shoulder-fired missiles when they meet in Bratislava on Feb. 24.

Media reported earlier this year that Moscow was looking to sell Syria its flagship Igla shoulder-fired missiles, widely used by militants around the world. But the Defense Ministry on Wednesday reiterated that arms trade with Syria included no Igla missiles.

Russia has stressed it carries out arms exports strictly in accordance with international law and pledged to do nothing that would destabilize the Middle East.

Moscow -- already at odds with Washington over its nuclear ties to Iran -- has said U.S. terror accusations against Syria are hurting the Middle East peace process.

Moscow's efforts to forge closer ties with Syria are part of its plan to regain its long-lost influence in the Middle East.

During last month's visit by Syrian President Bashar al-Assad, Russia agreed to write off a huge chunk of Soviet-era debt held by Syria.

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Yet another fine example of our government being able to dish it out but not take it. We've sold arms to countless tyrannical, terrorist regimes, yet now we are the righteous ones. I think Russia's about ready to tell us to fuck off anyhow.

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Coupled with the last Syrian news post, this does not look good.


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Let's move in and take 'em down. There's got to be something else we can pin on Syria. Human rights abuses or something?

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kusko_andy wrote:
Let's move in and take 'em down. There's got to be something else we can pin on Syria. Human rights abuses or something?


It's Syria for christ sakes, do we need an excuse? We didn't for Iraq...


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We could be in Damascus by the weekend, and have another huge swath of the Middle East completely destabilized. Excellent idea.

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I love when people say "Let's" and "We" when speaking about military action, as if they themselves are the ones putting their lives at risk. :roll:

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Does anyone else think it funny seeing Russia and advanced missles in the same phrase?

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turkey sub jr. wrote:
Does anyone else think it funny seeing Russia and advanced missles in the same phrase?


actually Russia is considerably more advanced than the US in certain fields of rocketry, among them cruise missles and air to air missles.


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turkey sub jr. wrote:
Does anyone else think it funny seeing Russia and advanced missles in the same phrase?
Considering Russia has enough nuclear firepower to send blast waves over every square inch of the world two times over, plus the missile systems to deliver them anywhere in the world within a half hour... no... I don't think it's funny.

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turkey sub jr. wrote:
Does anyone else think it funny seeing Russia and advanced missles in the same phrase?
Considering Russia has enough nuclear firepower to send blast waves over every square inch of the world two times over, plus the missile systems to deliver them anywhere in the world within a half hour... no... I don't think it's funny.


Russia doesn't have the minerals to use those missles. And I wouldn't be surprised if they blew in the silos. Those USSR weapons probably haven't been serviced since the early '90s.

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turkey sub jr. wrote:
aerojad wrote:
turkey sub jr. wrote:
Does anyone else think it funny seeing Russia and advanced missles in the same phrase?
Considering Russia has enough nuclear firepower to send blast waves over every square inch of the world two times over, plus the missile systems to deliver them anywhere in the world within a half hour... no... I don't think it's funny.


Russia doesn't have the minerals to use those missles. And I wouldn't be surprised if they blew in the silos. Those USSR weapons probably haven't been serviced since the early '90s.


While almost every aspect of Russia has decayed, the military is actually on the upsurge, new programs regarding nuclear weapons have been recently initiated.


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