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 Post subject: Re: The Official 2008 New England Patriots Thread
PostPosted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:26 am 
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so what is it that he brings to the team? it says above that he only has 19 career recepions over 5 seasons. is he a really good gunner or something?


I was hoping you would know. Maybe someone from Buffalo does?

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Primarily a special teams player, Aiken made his mark covering kicks and punts on one of the leagues best special teams units. However, he has played a limited role on offense, and because he is in the last year of his contract it is rumored that he will be released for someone who can make a larger impact on offense.

New England Patriots


On March 3, 2008, Aiken signed with the New England Patriots.

how do they determine "the leagues best special teams unit?"


I'm guessing things like net punt yards, kick return average against, touchbacks(for punting), return TDs given up, etc.

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 Post subject: Re: The Official New England Patriots Thread
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POSTED 8:11 p.m. EST, March 3, 2008

EAGLES LOST MOSS "AT THE WIRE"

We've heard from several readers today about reports in Philly from Gcobb.com and the radio host at WIP who hates us that the Eagles made a run at signing receiver Randy Moss.

We've looked into it, and it is 100 percent true.

The following explanation is based on our discussions with multiple league sources.

The Eagles, as reported elsewhere, offered a higher annual average than the Patriots. The Eagles also offered more guaranteed money than did the Pats.

But it was a day of high drama. The process went back and forth between the Eagles and the Patriots. At one point, the Eagles thought they had him. Then, it looked like the Pats had him. Then the Eagles. Then the Patriots.

One source said that the Pats won Moss "at the wire."

Moss, as we're told, was afraid to leave a place where he's happy after being unhappy for so many years before that.

The Eagles, as we understand it, knew that Moss was inclined to return to New England but decided to be aggressive.

And we greatly admire the Eagles for trying. Our good friends in Philly would have been elated with such a move -- and they should be happy that their team tried so hard to get a guy who could have had as big of an impact as Terrell Owens did in 2004, if not bigger.

The next question becomes whether this prompts the Eagles to re-double their efforts to pry receiver Larry Fitzgerald away from the Cardinals. There has been plenty of chatter about the Eagles trying to pull off a trade, and after getting so close to securing Moss there likely could be an increase groundswell of support for the franchise to do whatever is necessary to land a guy who in time could be every bit as good as Moss.

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Congrats on Moss, your defense still sucks 8)

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Congrats on Moss, your defense still sucks 8)

they were good enough to stop the chargers last year. :wink:

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Gaffney signs 1-year, $2 million deal. i'm pumped, the O is set.

Jason Webster signed earlier today and I see him as Gay's replacement.

Unless Rosie signs elsewhere, which isn't likely to happen any time soon since he's still healing, nothing has happened this offseason that wasn't expected to happen.

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Jason Webster signed earlier today and I see him as Gay's replacement.


*cue laughs from Electro and other Falcons fans*


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guys i'd like to see the pats sign:

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Brian Kelly
Reynaldo Hill (7th round compensation to Titans if deal not matched)
Ty Law

ILB:
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Adam Seward (5th round compensation to Panthers if deal not matched)

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Jason Webster signed earlier today and I see him as Gay's replacement.


*cue laughs from Electro and other Falcons fans*



Jason Webster is a horrible corner

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Jason Webster signed earlier today and I see him as Gay's replacement.


*cue laughs from Electro and other Falcons fans*



Jason Webster is a horrible corner


Heh, he didn't even play one whole game for the Bills and he still got this reaction?


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Green Habit wrote:
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Jason Webster signed earlier today and I see him as Gay's replacement.


*cue laughs from Electro and other Falcons fans*



Jason Webster is a horrible corner


Heh, he didn't even play one whole game for the Bills and he still got this reaction?

Preseason was horrid and I watched him play before

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mecca2687 wrote:
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Jason Webster signed earlier today and I see him as Gay's replacement.


*cue laughs from Electro and other Falcons fans*



Jason Webster is a horrible corner


Heh, he didn't even play one whole game for the Bills and he still got this reaction?

Preseason was horrid and I watched him play before

he's replacing randall gay... he dosn't have to be that good.

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EllisEamos wrote:
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Jason Webster signed earlier today and I see him as Gay's replacement.


*cue laughs from Electro and other Falcons fans*



Jason Webster is a horrible corner


Heh, he didn't even play one whole game for the Bills and he still got this reaction?

Preseason was horrid and I watched him play before

he's replacing randall gay... he dosn't have to be that good.




:D, Jason Webster.... cue the toughness comments now. cue... he's a good tackler.

When he's on the field (and that's rare) he tackles well. Cardboard cutouts are better in coverage. He's the Dante Stallworth/Peerless Price of cornerbacks only with less actual talent. They both essentially steal money. My guess is he's the emergency fall back corner incase they don't find one or two better in the draft or free agency. He's not terrible in zone or at nickle corner. Just don't ask him to cover more than 5 seconds and especially no bump and run.. on average he lines up 15 yards of the line of scrimmage so the 7 yard out is open ALL FREAKING DAY he can't stop it. Hopefully they didn't pay much. I'd have gone for Brian Kelly long before Jason Webster. Infact if Jason Webster was the only cab driver in Manhattan and I had to go from the upper West Side to the Lower East side... I'd freaking walk.

I'd rather replace Gay with Chevis Jackson. Good cover skills and they are both from LSU. Yeah it's not like they lose much with Gay at all... but geez. Jason Webster... maybe they are just bringing him into compete or play nickle. That's what I hope for your sake.

Liability is probably the best term I can use for Webster when the balls in the air. Good tackler, good in run support.... which leads to the injuries... bad to horrific in coverage if you can call what he does coverage.

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he's the emergency fall back corner incase they don't find one or two better in the draft or free agency.

i'm pretty sure they will. this isn't to replace asante, plain and simple.

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they are just bringing him into compete or play nickle.

i'm pretty sure this is all that's expected of him. that's all randall gay did here and he just got grossly overpayed. now that's laughable. :wink:

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EllisEamos wrote:
guys i'd like to see the pats sign:

CB:
Brian Kelly
Reynaldo Hill (7th round compensation to Titans if deal not matched)
Ty Law

ILB:
Dan Morgan
Adam Seward (5th round compensation to Panthers if deal not matched)


I contemplated putting Tank Williams on my list, but figured that Meriweather was staying at safety. Maybe he'll be a corner afterall.

Nailed this one though, I hope he gets signed to a poison-pill-filled contract:

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Posted by Mike Reiss, Globe Staff March 5, 2008 05:58 PM

After delving into the unrestricted free agent market in recent days, the Patriots are now considering a move with a restricted free agent. Team officials are scheduled to host Carolina linebacker Adam Seward on a visit at Gillette Stadium on Thursday.

Seward (31 games, 2 starts) has primarily been a backup over the last three seasons for the Panthers, who run a 4-3 defense. In New England’s 3-4 scheme, the 6-foot-2, 248-pound Seward would project to play inside linebacker.

As a restricted free agent, Seward was tendered at the low level by the Panthers. That means that if the Patriots sign him to an offer sheet – and the Panthers don’t match – it would cost New England a fifth-round draft choice, the round in which Seward entered the NFL in 2005.


Reiss doesn't point it out, but Seward was the teammate of one Ryan Claridge while both were at UNLV (in the schools 3-4 system). The pats drafted claridge, but he didn't last long, hopefully Seward would be a better fit.

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MINNEAPOLIS (Ticker) - The New England Patriots signed safety Tank Williams to a one-year contract on Wednesday, according to the St. Paul Pioneer Press.

Financial terms of the deal were not disclosed.

Williams was a productive and durable player in his first four seasons with the Tennessee Titans, playing in all 16 games three times.

However, the 6-2, 223-pounder was plagued by injuries in his last two seasons with the Minnesota Vikings.

A knee injury in training camp sidelined Williams for the entire 2006 season, and in 2007, he appeared in 13 games - making two starts - and registered 18 tackles.

A second-round pick in 2002, Williams has five career interceptions and four forced fumbles.


Looks like they are just throwing shit at the secondary, and waiting to see what sticks.


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Looks like they are just throwing shit at the secondary, and waiting to see what sticks.

So you've heard about them talking to Hank Poteat?!! :haha:

i shouldn't laugh, the guys got more rings than junior seau. :wink:

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Reynaldo Hill would be a great RFA signing. A 7th is hardly anything.

If you're willing to part with a 3rd rounder, the Pats could also go after the Broncos' Domonique Foxworth.


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Reynaldo Hill would be a great RFA signing. A 7th is hardly anything.

If you're willing to part with a 3rd rounder, the Pats could also go after the Broncos' Domonique Foxworth.

i was thinking of listing him, but figured Hill was the better value for a 7th rounder.

the kid Green in Arizona would be awesome, but he's got a 1st round tender.

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EllisEamos wrote:
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Reynaldo Hill would be a great RFA signing. A 7th is hardly anything.

If you're willing to part with a 3rd rounder, the Pats could also go after the Broncos' Domonique Foxworth.

i was thinking of listing him, but figured Hill was the better value for a 7th rounder.

the kid Green in Arizona would be awesome, but he's got a 1st round tender.



I heard they were talking to Robert Horry about picking him up before the season only to run him out on a few plays... you know to guarentee they win a championship :D

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