Red Mosquito :: View topic - The Jay Cutler Thread

Surely Tebow's numbers are a little better than that.

Edge to the Bears for now, but still, Cutler is not going to win a championship. So, I'm not sure what the upside is at the end of the day.

Jay Cutler trade revisited.

Bears receive :

Jay Cutler: Starting QB
Johnny Knox: Starting WR, leads team in yards.

Denver receive :

Kyle Orton: Benched this year for Tim Tebow
18th pick in 2009 – DE Robert Ayers (14 Tackles, 0 Sacks in 2009; 25 Tackles, 1.5 Sacks, missed 5 games due to injury in 2010 and was benched in preseason)
64th pick in 2009 – TE Richard Quinn (1 game played in two seasons)
132nd pick in 2009 – T Seth Olsen (Cut by Broncos before 2010 season; currently on Vikings practice squad)
22nd pick in 2010 – WR Demaryius Thomas (22 Receptions, 283 Yards, 2 Receiving TDs, 2 Fumbles lost in 9 games in 2010)
25th pick in 2010 – QB Tim Tebow (654 Yards Passing, 5 Passing TD, 3 Int, 227 Rushing Yards, 6 Rushing TDs in 9 games in 2010)
87th pick in 2010 – WR Eric Decker (3 Receptions, 76 Yards in 10 games in 2010

pnjguy wrote:

you realize Orton's numbers over 2 seasons with Denver are just about universally better than Cutler's numbers in 2 season with Chicago, right? The only thing Cutler has him on is TD passes

He was injured and the Broncos were so far out of it they decided to give Tebow some time. I think if the Broncos were still in it Orton would have played.

pearljamfan80 wrote:

He was injured and the Broncos were so far out of it they decided to give Tebow some time. I think if the Broncos were still in it Orton would have played.

that's what i thought.

seems like pnjguy really wants us to believe that chicago did the right thing... personally, i think Forte & Peppers were their wisest moves, but what do i know?

Don't get me wrong, Cutler is an enormous talent who can really be a special player. He just has so many head scratching moments, particularly in late game situations, it's ridiculous.

EllisEamos wrote:

pearljamfan80 wrote:

He was injured and the Broncos were so far out of it they decided to give Tebow some time. I think if the Broncos were still in it Orton would have played.

that's what i thought.

seems like pnjguy really wants us to believe that chicago did the right thing... personally, i think Forte & Peppers were their wisest moves, but what do i know?

What does drafting Forter have to do with trading for Cutler?

Author:	4/5 [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:24 am ]
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Spike wrote: I think this is is hilarious.

Author:	Riot Actor 25 [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:30 pm ]
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Go Redskins.

Author:	Green Habit [ Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:54 pm ]
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Riot Actor 25 wrote: Go Redskins.

Author:	pnjguy [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:11 pm ]
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Jay Cutler since that last post. Games: 8 Completion %: 60.95 TD's: 16 Int: 7 Passer Rating: 94.48 In his first 6 games, he was sacked 27 times, in his last 8 games, only 19. Really happy with him this year despite a new system, subpar receivers, and a terrible OL.

Author:	4/5 [ Mon Dec 27, 2010 5:47 pm ]
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thodoks: your rebuttal? j/k for the love of God please no

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Author:	pnjguy [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:36 pm ]
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Jay Cutler trade revisited. Bears receive : Jay Cutler: Starting QB Johnny Knox: Starting WR, leads team in yards. Denver receive : Kyle Orton: Benched this year for Tim Tebow 18th pick in 2009 – DE Robert Ayers (14 Tackles, 0 Sacks in 2009; 25 Tackles, 1.5 Sacks, missed 5 games due to injury in 2010 and was benched in preseason) 64th pick in 2009 – TE Richard Quinn (1 game played in two seasons) 132nd pick in 2009 – T Seth Olsen (Cut by Broncos before 2010 season; currently on Vikings practice squad) 22nd pick in 2010 – WR Demaryius Thomas (22 Receptions, 283 Yards, 2 Receiving TDs, 2 Fumbles lost in 9 games in 2010) 25th pick in 2010 – QB Tim Tebow (654 Yards Passing, 5 Passing TD, 3 Int, 227 Rushing Yards, 6 Rushing TDs in 9 games in 2010) 87th pick in 2010 – WR Eric Decker (3 Receptions, 76 Yards in 10 games in 2010

Author:	4/5 [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:37 pm ]
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Surely Tebow's numbers are a little better than that.

Author:	pnjguy [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 5:44 pm ]
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4/5 wrote: Surely Tebow's numbers are a little better than that. updated.

Author:	Green Habit [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 6:02 pm ]
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Nobody anticipated Lloyd having the season that he had, which didn't give Thomas and Decker many balls to catch. Not to mention that Thomas was hurt for most of the season. Quinn wasn't going to get much time starting anyway with Graham already there in place. He's also played in way more than one game. It's also tricky including Olsen in the deal when that pick is more closely tied to a trade with the Steelers.

Author:	Coach [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:27 pm ]
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Edge to the Bears for now, but still, Cutler is not going to win a championship. So, I'm not sure what the upside is at the end of the day.

Author:	pnjguy [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 7:38 pm ]
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Coach wrote: Edge to the Bears for now, but still, Cutler is not going to win a championship. So, I'm not sure what the upside is at the end of the day. dynamite analysis right there folks

Author:	Too Big a Man Too Say [ Tue Jan 04, 2011 11:26 pm ]
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Cutler has obviously got better in the second half of the season once Martz adjusted the play calling, but he still isn't as consistent or as good as he can be. That being said I am completely confident that he is good enough to lead this team to the Super Bowl, and be even better next year if he has another off-season to work with Martz and Martz sticks to 50/50 run-pass ratio, or the Bears get a massive upgrade on the o-line. Personally I could care less about who "won" the trade. In all reality the Bears probably wouldn't be in the position they are if Orton was the qb instead of Cutler, but that doesnt mean the Broncos didn't get good players out of the deal.

Author:	MattA751 [ Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:58 pm ]
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pnjguy wrote: Jay Cutler trade revisited. Bears receive : Jay Cutler: Starting QB Johnny Knox: Starting WR, leads team in yards. Denver receive : Kyle Orton: Benched this year for Tim Tebow 18th pick in 2009 – DE Robert Ayers (14 Tackles, 0 Sacks in 2009; 25 Tackles, 1.5 Sacks, missed 5 games due to injury in 2010 and was benched in preseason) 64th pick in 2009 – TE Richard Quinn (1 game played in two seasons) 132nd pick in 2009 – T Seth Olsen (Cut by Broncos before 2010 season; currently on Vikings practice squad) 22nd pick in 2010 – WR Demaryius Thomas (22 Receptions, 283 Yards, 2 Receiving TDs, 2 Fumbles lost in 9 games in 2010) 25th pick in 2010 – QB Tim Tebow (654 Yards Passing, 5 Passing TD, 3 Int, 227 Rushing Yards, 6 Rushing TDs in 9 games in 2010) 87th pick in 2010 – WR Eric Decker (3 Receptions, 76 Yards in 10 games in 2010 you realize Orton's numbers over 2 seasons with Denver are just about universally better than Cutler's numbers in 2 season with Chicago, right? The only thing Cutler has him on is TD passes

Author:	EllisEamos [ Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:37 am ]
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MattA751 wrote: pnjguy wrote: Jay Cutler trade revisited. Bears receive : Jay Cutler: Starting QB Johnny Knox: Starting WR, leads team in yards. Denver receive : Kyle Orton: Benched this year for Tim Tebow 18th pick in 2009 – DE Robert Ayers (14 Tackles, 0 Sacks in 2009; 25 Tackles, 1.5 Sacks, missed 5 games due to injury in 2010 and was benched in preseason) 64th pick in 2009 – TE Richard Quinn (1 game played in two seasons) 132nd pick in 2009 – T Seth Olsen (Cut by Broncos before 2010 season; currently on Vikings practice squad) 22nd pick in 2010 – WR Demaryius Thomas (22 Receptions, 283 Yards, 2 Receiving TDs, 2 Fumbles lost in 9 games in 2010) 25th pick in 2010 – QB Tim Tebow (654 Yards Passing, 5 Passing TD, 3 Int, 227 Rushing Yards, 6 Rushing TDs in 9 games in 2010) 87th pick in 2010 – WR Eric Decker (3 Receptions, 76 Yards in 10 games in 2010 you realize Orton's numbers over 2 seasons with Denver are just about universally better than Cutler's numbers in 2 season with Chicago, right? The only thing Cutler has him on is TD passes was he "benched" for tebow, or was he injured? also: Spoiler: show

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Author:	pearljamfan80 [ Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:42 am ]
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He was injured and the Broncos were so far out of it they decided to give Tebow some time. I think if the Broncos were still in it Orton would have played.

Author:	EllisEamos [ Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:45 am ]
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pearljamfan80 wrote: He was injured and the Broncos were so far out of it they decided to give Tebow some time. I think if the Broncos were still in it Orton would have played. that's what i thought. seems like pnjguy really wants us to believe that chicago did the right thing... personally, i think Forte & Peppers were their wisest moves, but what do i know?

Author:	pearljamfan80 [ Thu Jan 06, 2011 5:54 am ]
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Don't get me wrong, Cutler is an enormous talent who can really be a special player. He just has so many head scratching moments, particularly in late game situations, it's ridiculous.

Author:	Too Big a Man Too Say [ Thu Jan 06, 2011 12:24 pm ]
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EllisEamos wrote: pearljamfan80 wrote: He was injured and the Broncos were so far out of it they decided to give Tebow some time. I think if the Broncos were still in it Orton would have played. that's what i thought. seems like pnjguy really wants us to believe that chicago did the right thing... personally, i think Forte & Peppers were their wisest moves, but what do i know? What does drafting Forter have to do with trading for Cutler?

Author:	MattA751 [ Thu Jan 06, 2011 1:33 pm ]
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pearljamfan80 wrote: Don't get me wrong, Cutler is an enormous talent who can really be a special player. He just has so many head scratching moments, particularly in late game situations, it's ridiculous. I'm telling you, he's Jeff fucking George

Author:	EllisEamos [ Thu Jan 06, 2011 2:00 pm ]
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Too Big a Man Too Say wrote: EllisEamos wrote: pearljamfan80 wrote: He was injured and the Broncos were so far out of it they decided to give Tebow some time. I think if the Broncos were still in it Orton would have played. that's what i thought. seems like pnjguy really wants us to believe that chicago did the right thing... personally, i think Forte & Peppers were their wisest moves, but what do i know? What does drafting Forter have to do with trading for Cutler? nothing other that its a roster move that certainly benefited the team... which is the overall topic of this conversation.