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 Post subject: Life without whizinator: Ontario Smith gets banned for year
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:50 pm 
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Minnesota Vikings tailback Onterrio Smith has been apprised by the NFL that he faces a suspension for the entire 2005 season for a repeat violation of the league's substance abuse program, two sources with knowledge of his situation told ESPN.com.

The suspension, which would be the second sanction against the third-year veteran, is subject to appeal. Smith missed four games in 2004 after the former University of Oregon star tested positive for marijuana. A player has five days to appeal a suspension.

Citing the league's confidentiality guidelines on such matters, an NFL spokesman on Thursday declined comment.

It is not yet known what triggered Smith's latest violation but sources were adamant that it had nothing to do with an April 21 incident in which the Vikings back was stopped at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport in possession of a device, "The Original Whizzinator," which is marketed as a way to beat drug tests.

Two team sources said Smith told them he had missed a league-administered drug test, which, according to the NFL guidelines, is tantamount to a positive screening.

Smith, 24, was present for the start of the Vikings' offseason program on Monday, was absent on Tuesday, then returned Wednesday. On Thursday, though, coach Mike Tice said that Smith would miss the rest of the team's offseason activities.

"He has been excused from the rest of the offseason program, and he will be gone indefinitely," Tice said. "I really can't speak about any reasons why, or when he will be back. It is in the league's hands. We'll leave it at that."

The decision to have Smith not attend the workouts, however, would have to be made, at this time, by Vikings officials. Since the suspension has not yet been enforced because of Smith's appeal rights, he is not precluded from attending club-related activities.

A fourth-round choice in 2003, Smith had a history of off-field problems in college, and they contributed to his depressed draft stock. When the Vikings ended his plummet in the fourth round, Smith referred to himself as the "SOD," explaining later that he considered himself the "steal of the draft."

In two seasons, Smith has appeared in 26 games and started nine of them. He has logged 231 carries for 1,123 yards and seven touchdowns. Smith also has 51 receptions for 523 yards and two touchdowns, and has returned 36 kickoffs for 743 yards.

The potential loss of Smith for the entire season is a blow to a Minnesota offense that Tice has insisted will refocus on the power running game the Vikings seemed to abandon at times in 2004. That said, the Vikings can still claim a deep tailback depth chart, with veterans Michael Bennett, Moe Williams and Mewelde Moore on hand, along with rookie Ciatrick Fason, of Florida, a fourth-round pick in last month's draft.

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he needs to be banned, i am glad to see that....

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Why the NFL needs to test for marijuana is beyond me, but that's another debate.

The Vikings have Michael Bennett, Moe Williams, Mewelde Moore, and Ciatrick Fason. They'll do just fine without Smith.


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Green Habit wrote:
Why the NFL needs to test for marijuana is beyond me, but that's another debate.

The Vikings have Michael Bennett, Moe Williams, Mewelde Moore, and Ciatrick Fason. They'll do just fine without Smith.
i hope this doesnt ruin his career. i would have no problem if he tested possitive for a performance-enhancing drug, but the guy was smoking pot

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What do you expect, with a guy from Eugene?

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Fuckin' Oregon players... they all suck!


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Fuckin' Oregon players... they all suck!


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warehouse21sj wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Why the NFL needs to test for marijuana is beyond me, but that's another debate.

The Vikings have Michael Bennett, Moe Williams, Mewelde Moore, and Ciatrick Fason. They'll do just fine without Smith.
i hope this doesnt ruin his career. i would have no problem if he tested possitive for a performance-enhancing drug, but the guy was smoking pot

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lunkin wrote:
warehouse21sj wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Why the NFL needs to test for marijuana is beyond me, but that's another debate.

The Vikings have Michael Bennett, Moe Williams, Mewelde Moore, and Ciatrick Fason. They'll do just fine without Smith.
i hope this doesnt ruin his career. i would have no problem if he tested possitive for a performance-enhancing drug, but the guy was smoking pot

I didn't read the story...was it really just for weed??

I don't smoke weed, but if you ask me "should it be legalized?"...I lean towards YES.

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Bammer wrote:
lunkin wrote:
warehouse21sj wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Why the NFL needs to test for marijuana is beyond me, but that's another debate.

The Vikings have Michael Bennett, Moe Williams, Mewelde Moore, and Ciatrick Fason. They'll do just fine without Smith.
i hope this doesnt ruin his career. i would have no problem if he tested possitive for a performance-enhancing drug, but the guy was smoking pot

I didn't read the story...was it really just for weed??

I don't smoke weed, but if you ask me "should it be legalized?"...I lean towards YES.
as do most americans. its the fucking idiots making the laws that think its so bad.

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I think the owners have an interest in this. I agree that it's pretty stupid to disqulify an olympic athlete or pretty much any ameteur for pot since it's not a performance enhancer. However, I think if an owner is paying a guy millions of dollars a year, he should be assured that investment is not doing wake and bakes on Sunday mornings.

On the flip side, you can go out drinking until dawn and have the hangover affect you more than if you smoked up the morning of a game. There seems to be a double standard that way, but it's the same double standard that exists when it comes to legality. However, in this case I can see why marijuana is tested for when someone is making millions and one of their main jobs is to keep their body in peak physical condition.

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MitchCumstein wrote:
I think the owners have an interest in this. I agree that it's pretty stupid to disqulify an olympic athlete or pretty much any ameteur for pot since it's not a performance enhancer. However, I think if an owner is paying a guy millions of dollars a year, he should be assured that investment is not doing wake and bakes on Sunday mornings.

On the flip side, you can go out drinking until dawn and have the hangover affect you more than if you smoked up the morning of a game. There seems to be a double standard that way, but it's the same double standard that exists when it comes to legality. However, in this case I can see why marijuana is tested for when someone is making millions and one of their main jobs is to keep their body in peak physical condition.


Your thoughts almost echo mine (what else is new? ;) ) Let's see if you agree with this: I think that the issue of marijuana should be left solely to the teams. If a coach wants to forbid recreational drugs to keep their athletes in tip-top shape, that's fine by me. But to put such drugs on the same level as performace-enhancing drugs is ridiculous.


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Green Habit wrote:
MitchCumstein wrote:
I think the owners have an interest in this. I agree that it's pretty stupid to disqulify an olympic athlete or pretty much any ameteur for pot since it's not a performance enhancer. However, I think if an owner is paying a guy millions of dollars a year, he should be assured that investment is not doing wake and bakes on Sunday mornings.

On the flip side, you can go out drinking until dawn and have the hangover affect you more than if you smoked up the morning of a game. There seems to be a double standard that way, but it's the same double standard that exists when it comes to legality. However, in this case I can see why marijuana is tested for when someone is making millions and one of their main jobs is to keep their body in peak physical condition.


Your thoughts almost echo mine (what else is new? ;) ) Let's see if you agree with this: I think that the issue of marijuana should be left solely to the teams. If a coach wants to forbid recreational drugs to keep their athletes in tip-top shape, that's fine by me. But to put such drugs on the same level as performace-enhancing drugs is ridiculous.


I would agree with that. And actually I'm sure some owners would agree with that. While some owners wouldn't mind getting rid of an underachiever with an attitude problem who tests positive, there are always cases like Ricky Williams. I highly doubt Dolphins ownership cared if Ricky was smoking an ounce a day, as long as he was getting 1600 yards a season. Who knows, some owners may not want that going on regardless of the numbers, but in reality sometimes you'd rather have a half-stoned Randy Moss than a sober anyone else.

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This isn't a weed thing. One of the conditions of getting paid the GDP of a few third world countries a year is that you don't do drugs while employed. So those drugs are worth more to you than a metric fuckton of cash?

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