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Larry Hughes? are you serious? 14 million?

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he's good, but so many teams end up regretting these max deals.

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You'd think GM's would copy the Patriots/Eagles approach to winning, not overpaying, not going with Max deals for average to better than average guys.

The Knicks are a shining example of what not to do. Hasn't the world learned from Allen Houston, Allen Henderson, and Big Dog Glen Robinson oh and who was the guy from and 1 that got a hell of a deal?


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jimmac what team is hughes going to

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Electromatic wrote:
You'd think GM's would copy the Patriots/Eagles approach to winning, not overpaying, not going with Max deals for average to better than average guys.

The Knicks are a shining example of what not to do. Hasn't the world learned from Allen Houston, Allen Henderson, and Big Dog Glen Robinson oh and who was the guy from and 1 that got a hell of a deal?


Chris Ford from ESPN believes the Knicks are going to trade Marbury this summer to make room for Lebron in the summer of 2007. I guess Lebron has in his endorsement contracts clauses in case he plays in a major market such as NY, Chicago, or LA. If they get rid of Marbury the Knicks will be 20 million under the cap in 2007.

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lunkin wrote:
jimmac what team is hughes going to


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Zutballs wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
You'd think GM's would copy the Patriots/Eagles approach to winning, not overpaying, not going with Max deals for average to better than average guys.

The Knicks are a shining example of what not to do. Hasn't the world learned from Allen Houston, Allen Henderson, and Big Dog Glen Robinson oh and who was the guy from and 1 that got a hell of a deal?


Chris Ford from ESPN believes the Knicks are going to trade Marbury this summer to make room for Lebron in the summer of 2007. I guess Lebron has in his endorsement contracts clauses in case he plays in a major market such as NY, Chicago, or LA. If they get rid of Marbury the Knicks will be 20 million under the cap in 2007.


Just like the Hawks under 20 million this season. It's a good move for them certainly, but no team should ever get in that situation. Pete Babcock is an absolutly horrid GM.

Where is Marbury rumored to go?


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ive heard marbury for dalambert

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warehouse21sj wrote:
ive heard marbury for dalambert


In Philly? Dalambert is in Philly right?

Why? Marbury is a ball hog, why would they mix him in with the much better AI?


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Electromatic wrote:
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ive heard marbury for dalambert


In Philly? Dalambert is in Philly right?

Why? Marbury is a ball hog, why would they mix him in with the much better AI?


yes, dalambert is here.

and that would be a horrible, horrible move for the 76ers.

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Zutballs wrote:
Electromatic wrote:
You'd think GM's would copy the Patriots/Eagles approach to winning, not overpaying, not going with Max deals for average to better than average guys.

The Knicks are a shining example of what not to do. Hasn't the world learned from Allen Houston, Allen Henderson, and Big Dog Glen Robinson oh and who was the guy from and 1 that got a hell of a deal?


Chris Ford from ESPN believes the Knicks are going to trade Marbury this summer to make room for Lebron in the summer of 2007. I guess Lebron has in his endorsement contracts clauses in case he plays in a major market such as NY, Chicago, or LA. If they get rid of Marbury the Knicks will be 20 million under the cap in 2007.


this is the greatest thing that could happen to the knicks, right up until they sign lebron and go right back to over the cap status....


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Electromatic wrote:
warehouse21sj wrote:
ive heard marbury for dalambert


In Philly? Dalambert is in Philly right?

Why? Marbury is a ball hog, why would they mix him in with the much better AI?
no idea, but ive heard it on tv and a few of my friends heard the same thing.

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yeah, Ford reported something about a big sign and trade involving Steph and Tim Thomas for Dalembert and Mckie or something like that.

from the Knicks perspective, to make the contracts match up, Dalembert must be getting a hefty raise, which eliminates the theory about getting cap space for Lebron. They'd have to trade Steph in a straight salary dump for that to happen. there was another proposed deal w/ the Hawks for expiring deals.

FWIW, Isaih vehemently denied this.

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Electromatic wrote:
warehouse21sj wrote:
ive heard marbury for dalambert


In Philly? Dalambert is in Philly right?

Why? Marbury is a ball hog, why would they mix him in with the much better AI?


That would be the worst trade the Sixers ever made, even worse than Barkley for Jeff Hornacek, Tim Perry and Andrew Lang. Marbury is a team cancer and the Sixers are small as it is. Dalambert is a solid Center who is not even close to his potential which is hard to find.

I don't think Billy King is dumb enough to pull the trigger on that deal.

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here's the Chris Ford article...

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Stephon Marbury, PG, New York Knicks
Knicks president Isiah Thomas went nuts over Tuesday's column (and a New York Times report) stating that Isiah was willing to trade Marbury.

"That is so far from the truth," Thomas told reporters, in an angry tone, at a press conference after the Knicks' first summer league game. "And I'm ashamed for you guys that you even have to ask me that, because there is absolutely no truth to it at all."

Marbury has "never been in play," and the Knicks will "never put him in play," according to Isiah.

That's sharply at odds with what several NBA executives have told Insider over the course of the last week.

Thomas also took issue with the use of other, unnamed executives as sources.

"Tell the GM, whoever the GM is, to put his name on it," Thomas said.

Knicks fans likewise were displeased at suggestions that Thomas would be willing to trade Marbury to get Samuel Dalembert in a sign-and-trade. They were even more shocked at the possibility of trading him to Atlanta for Al Harrington, Tony Delk and Jason Collier.

The funny thing is, trading Marbury is a move the Knicks should make. A trade for Dalembert (which I'm told Sixers GM Billy King has zero interest in) would help the Knicks here and now. That trade would add a shot blocker, put Jamal Crawford and Nate Robinson at the point and give the Knicks a good chance at the playoffs.

A potential Hawks trade would be more about the future. By moving Marbury for players like Harrington, Delk and Collier (all in the last year of their contracts), Isiah could be on the verge of the previously unthinkable -- cap room. If Marbury were moved and Thomas could resist the urge to throw a max deal at every free agent that bats his eyes at him, the Knicks would be around $20 million under the cap going into the summer of 2007.

That just happens to be the summer that LeBron James becomes a restricted free agent, with his full free agency to follow a year later. Given what we know about the huge endorsement kickers James would get by playing in a big market like New York, combined with the chaos in Cleveland right now, it isn't a stretch to think that the Knicks would be real players in the LeBron market, provided they can get their house in order.


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