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Just Justin wrote:
New York Giants - Kurt Warner or Eli Manning
Arizona Cardinals - Shaun King or Josh McCown
Washington Redskins - Patrick Ramsey or Mark Brunell
Dallas Cowboys - Drew Henson or Vinny Testaverde
Detroit Lions - Joey Harrington or Mike McMahon
If you were the head coach who would you pick to start the next game for each of these teams? I'd go with:
Manning, King, Brunell, Henson, and Harrington.
I'd start manning. Even if the Giants made the playoffs they aren't gonna win a game. Might as well start Eli.
McCown - Have you seen King play the last 2 weeks. Dennis Green really fucked that one up. His team wins tweo games in a row and he benches his QB? That's just stupid.
Ramsey - Brunell is done, sticka fork in him
Testaverde - I'd start Vinny. Henson hasn't played in so long that he's gonna be a mess out there. Vinny wasn't playing that bad.
Harrington - His stats aren't bad at all. It isn't his fault that the running game sucks and that his receivers are getting hurt.
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Just Justin wrote:
New York Giants - Kurt Warner or Eli Manning
Arizona Cardinals - Shaun King or Josh McCown
Washington Redskins - Patrick Ramsey or Mark Brunell
Dallas Cowboys - Drew Henson or Vinny Testaverde
Detroit Lions - Joey Harrington or Mike McMahon
If you were the head coach who would you pick to start the next game for each of these teams? I'd go with:
Manning, King, Brunell, Henson, and Harrington.
Giants - Eli's coming
Arizona - neither is starting this week, Redskins - Ramsey
Cowboys - Henson
Lions - Mike McMahon has a great arm and seems to understand the offense better.
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Just Justin wrote:
New York Giants - Kurt Warner or Eli Manning
Arizona Cardinals - Shaun King or Josh McCown
Washington Redskins - Patrick Ramsey or Mark Brunell
Dallas Cowboys - Drew Henson or Vinny Testaverde
Detroit Lions - Joey Harrington or Mike McMahon
If you were the head coach who would you pick to start the next game for each of these teams? I'd go with:
Manning, King, Brunell, Henson, and Harrington.
i would go with
Eli
McCown, king sucks, i was so happy when he left the bucks
ramsey, i love brunell but hes done, how many games did he not even throw for 100 yards?
henson, he has to learn, and if hes the possible future they need to find out now
harrington, hes good, hes just young on a young team, give him and his team time to come together
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I think starting Eli Manning was a big mistake personally. The Giants play-off hopes are more or less gone now that Manning is starting. I dont care if it was against the Eagles 6-21 is pitiful. With manning in there the giants have no chance to win, at least with Warner there is a possibility.
For the others : McCown, Ramsey, Henson, and Harrington
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This thread has got me thinking: Does anyone think that the quality of QBs has been low recently? In the mid 80s to late 90s, we had Montana, Elway, Marino, Young, Kelly, Aikman, Favre, to name a few. Only one of those guys is still playing today.
When I look at the current quarterbacks, the only two I could see even being able to enter that class at this point would be Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.
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Green Habit wrote:
This thread has got me thinking: Does anyone think that the quality of QBs has been low recently? In the mid 80s to late 90s, we had Montana, Elway, Marino, Young, Kelly, Aikman, Favre, to name a few. Only one of those guys is still playing today.
When I look at the current quarterbacks, the only two I could see even being able to enter that class at this point would be Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.
You are crazy!!!
Look at McNabb's record. Vick is going to be the 1st QB to rush for over 1,000 yrds. Culpepper is only getting better. Did you see Culpepper's pass in the endzone to Moss right between two defenders?
Montana's arm isn't 1/2 of what the above QB's are.
Why do you consider Young better than any of the above QB's? What did Kelly ever do??
I think starting Eli Manning was a big mistake personally. The Giants play-off hopes are more or less gone now that Manning is starting. I dont care if it was against the Eagles 6-21 is pitiful. With manning in there the giants have no chance to win, at least with Warner there is a possibility.
I'm not sure why you think the Giants had a better chance to beat the best two teams in the NFC with Warner when he couldn't beat either the Lions or the Bears.
The Giants still have a good chance at the playoff's. They're still tied for the second wildcard spot .
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pjam81373 wrote:
Too Big a Man Too Say wrote:
I think starting Eli Manning was a big mistake personally. The Giants play-off hopes are more or less gone now that Manning is starting. I dont care if it was against the Eagles 6-21 is pitiful. With manning in there the giants have no chance to win, at least with Warner there is a possibility.
I'm not sure why you think the Giants had a better chance to beat the best two teams in the NFC with Warner when he couldn't beat either the Lions or the Bears.
The Giants still have a good chance at the playoff's. They're still tied for the second wildcard spot .
Warner's thumb is still causing him problems with gripping the football. Its something that will never be 100% better. Sometimes his thumb is ok and sometime he can't grip the ball at all.
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zutmon wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
This thread has got me thinking: Does anyone think that the quality of QBs has been low recently? In the mid 80s to late 90s, we had Montana, Elway, Marino, Young, Kelly, Aikman, Favre, to name a few. Only one of those guys is still playing today.
When I look at the current quarterbacks, the only two I could see even being able to enter that class at this point would be Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.
You are crazy!!!
Look at McNabb's record. Vick is going to be the 1st QB to rush for over 1,000 yrds. Culpepper is only getting better. Did you see Culpepper's pass in the endzone to Moss right between two defenders?
Montana's arm isn't 1/2 of what the above QB's are.
Why do you consider Young better than any of the above QB's? What did Kelly ever do??
Forgot about Vick.
Verdict's still out on McNabb and Culpepper, IMO. Both have lacked a strong supporting cast to really compare, so it's tough to judge (though the day of reckoning could be coming for McNabb).
Brady's arm isn't the greatest, either. And arm strength the only factor (though it is a big one)
History could prove me wrong. Who knows at this point. Hell, with Ben Roethlisberger emerging, that list could be building right now.
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Green Habit wrote:
zutmon wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
This thread has got me thinking: Does anyone think that the quality of QBs has been low recently? In the mid 80s to late 90s, we had Montana, Elway, Marino, Young, Kelly, Aikman, Favre, to name a few. Only one of those guys is still playing today.
When I look at the current quarterbacks, the only two I could see even being able to enter that class at this point would be Tom Brady and Peyton Manning.
You are crazy!!!
Look at McNabb's record. Vick is going to be the 1st QB to rush for over 1,000 yrds. Culpepper is only getting better. Did you see Culpepper's pass in the endzone to Moss right between two defenders?
Montana's arm isn't 1/2 of what the above QB's are.
Why do you consider Young better than any of the above QB's? What did Kelly ever do??
Forgot about Vick.
Verdict's still out on McNabb and Culpepper, IMO. Both have lacked a strong supporting cast to really compare, so it's tough to judge (though the day of reckoning could be coming for McNabb).
Brady's arm isn't the greatest, either. And arm strength the only factor (though it is a big one)
History could prove me wrong. Who knows at this point. Hell, with Ben Roethlisberger emerging, that list could be building right now.
Roethlisberger???? He only completed 9 passes last week. He's not much of a passing QB in my opinion. Yeah he's winning but its not solely on his QBing ability unlike a McNabb did in his first 2 or 3 seasons with the Eagles.
Your right neither McNabb or Culpepper have had a strong offensive cast which is the reason they are superior QB's. Elway was great when he had no one around him but only won superbowls when he have great offenses. Right?
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zutmon wrote:
Roethlisberger???? He only completed 9 passes last week. He's not much of a passing QB in my opinion. Yeah he's winning but its not solely on his QBing ability unlike a McNabb did in his first 2 or 3 seasons with the Eagles.
That was exactly my point. 9 games can't tell the entire future.
zutmon wrote:
Your right neither McNabb or Culpepper have had a strong offensive cast which is the reason they are superior QB's. Elway was great when he had no one around him but only won superbowls when he have great offenses. Right?
McNabb and Culpepper are only part of the way there. They can play very well on their own, but will they be able to attain the ultimate success with the proper help? I bet plenty of people had the same question about Elway back in the day.
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zutmon wrote:
What did Kelly ever do??
Won a lot more imprtant games than Mr. September...errr Marino ever did.
and if you're going to hold 4 super bowls against him, which is fair, then what the hell has McNabb ever done? At least Kelly sacked up in the Championship games that were played on his home field.
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