Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 10:59 am Posts: 9057 Location: Camden, NJ
first off, you guys will LOVE watching little Ceasar Izturis play gold glove SS.
my question is just how washed up is ol' Greg Maddux? Cause the dude over 40 and judging by his stats, hes an absolute blow job this year. A shell of his HOF self.
so, is it because hes lost his stuff? or are the Cubbies so bad that it makes Maddux LOOK so awful? please tell me?
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:52 pm Posts: 6822 Location: NY Gender: Male
Koufax wrote:
first off, you guys will LOVE watching little Ceasar Izturis play gold glove SS.
my question is just how washed up is ol' Greg Maddux? Cause the dude over 40 and judging by his stats, hes an absolute blow job this year. A shell of his HOF self.
so, is it because hes lost his stuff? or are the Cubbies so bad that it makes Maddux LOOK so awful? please tell me?
I think it's somewhere in between. He's not a #1 guy anymore, but he can still give you quality innings and some wins. He's lost some of his stuff, but his baseball intelligence will still make him very useful to the right team. Especially mentoring young pitchers.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:05 am Posts: 8045 Location: Arlington Heights, IL Gender: Male
Dont expect him to go more than 6 innings, no matter what. After struggling through the middle of the season he has had a strong last couple of starts. He is not dreadful, but he is not nearly as good as he used to be. That being said, i'm gonna miss watching him pitch
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 4:52 pm Posts: 10620 Location: Chicago, IL Gender: Male
I've seen him in person the past 2 years about 10-15 times. I think you should expect a quality 3rd or 4th starter that will give you about 6 innings. Don't forget, he'll be pitching in Dodger Stadium, which is a lot more pitcher friendly than Wrigley in warm weather. There's a reason he was 5-0 in April with less than a 2.00 ERA (wing blowing in).
The most under-appreciated asset of the guy is what he does for other pitchers. He will spend a lot of time with them and teach them how to prepare for each game. You're getting more than a HOF pitcher -- you're getting a pitching coach.
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:02 pm Posts: 1777 Location: Naperville, IL, USA Ten Club: 230xxx Gender: Male
Beware the big inning!
Maddux will do stuff like strike out the first two batters on 6 pitches and then give up back-to-back jacks. He'll throw 5 great innings and then get destroyed in inning #6. It's very frustrating, because he looks unhittable about 75% of the time, but that doesn't mean 3 out of 4 starts are awesome, it means 3 out of 4 innings are awesome.
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He's one of the better #5 starters in the game right now. Don't expect him to be your #2 guy or anything.
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Joined: Fri Oct 22, 2004 12:47 pm Posts: 9282 Location: Atlanta Gender: Male
twoheadedboy wrote:
Beware the big inning!
Maddux will do stuff like strike out the first two batters on 6 pitches and then give up back-to-back jacks. He'll throw 5 great innings and then get destroyed in inning #6. It's very frustrating, because he looks unhittable about 75% of the time, but that doesn't mean 3 out of 4 starts are awesome, it means 3 out of 4 innings are awesome.
sounds like Tim Hudson, you guys want him? He's one of the better 5th.....oh wait Tim Hudson's supposed to be a #1......
In Mad dog's corner....I mean look at him he's old.....
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 5:08 pm Posts: 4678 Location: Morgantown, WV Gender: Female
Electromatic wrote:
twoheadedboy wrote:
Beware the big inning!
Maddux will do stuff like strike out the first two batters on 6 pitches and then give up back-to-back jacks. He'll throw 5 great innings and then get destroyed in inning #6. It's very frustrating, because he looks unhittable about 75% of the time, but that doesn't mean 3 out of 4 starts are awesome, it means 3 out of 4 innings are awesome.
sounds like Tim Hudson, you guys want him? He's one of the better 5th.....oh wait Tim Hudson's supposed to be a #1......
In Mad dog's corner....I mean look at him he's old.....
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