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 Post subject: Justin Morneau for MVP
PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:19 pm 
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Justin Morneau's season stats thru July 26:

AVG .313 (12th in AL)
HR 27 (6th in AL)
RBI 84 (2nd in AL)
OB% .359 (28th in AL)
SLG% .597 (7th in AL)
OPS .956 (9th in AL)

Morneau has lead the Twins to a 34-8 record over their last 42 games. With a batting average of .377, 16 Home Runs, and 45 RBI's since June 1st., Morneau merits strong consideration for the AL MVP.


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if anyone wins from that team it should be mauer.

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Peter Van Wieren wrote:
if anyone wins from that team it should be mauer.


mauer is def. top 3 in the running,....

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Wasn't there a ton of bitching when the Twins chose Mauer over Prior in the draft a couple years ago? Stuff like 'Mauer will be a solid pro, but never measure up to Prior?' Can't blame them because of Prior's pre-MLB career, but seriously...


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Wasn't there a ton of bitching when the Twins chose Mauer over Prior in the draft a couple years ago? Stuff like 'Mauer will be a solid pro, but never measure up to Prior?' Can't blame them because of Prior's pre-MLB career, but seriously...

i think that was just fsu fans stuck with chris rix at the time.

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Morneau:

Since June 9

.409 AVG
16 HR

That's pretty fuckin' good.


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Peter Van Wieren wrote:
if anyone wins from that team it should be mauer.



Justin Morneau's season stats thru July 26:

AVG .313 (12th in AL)
HR 27 (6th in AL)
RBI 84 (2nd in AL)
OB% .359 (28th in AL)
SLG% .597 (7th in AL)
OPS .956 (9th in AL)
Runs 57 (29th in AL)
Hits 111 (16th in AL)


Joe Mauer's season stats thru July 26:

AVG .375 (1st in AL)
HR 8 (71st in AL)
RBI 54 (32nd in AL)
OB% .449 (1st in AL)
SLG% .534 (13th in AL)
OPS .983 (7th in AL)
Runs 53 (41st in AL)
Hits 123 (7th in AL)

To me this is an INCREDIBLY close call. Both are deserving of major consideration. It really is an incredibly hard call. Morneau's power numbers and run production numbers give his the slightest edge in my book.


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if things continue as they have for the past month, morneau will be remembered as more valuable than mauer. he's clutch and he has power. his bat has decided more games than mauer's. ortiz iz the shit, but he doesn't play in the field. i just don't think dh's should win mvp.

and phatj, you fucking rule. your threads are like the mashed potato sculpture in close encounters, if you know what i mean.

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If any Twin gets the MVP, it's Liriano.

He's certainly my fantasy baseball MVP :D

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twoheadedboy wrote:
If any Twin gets the MVP, it's Liriano.

He's certainly my fantasy baseball MVP :D


much as i love him, he only plays every 5 days.

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twoheadedboy wrote:
If any Twin gets the MVP, it's Liriano.

He's certainly my fantasy baseball MVP :D


I wouldn't be able to argue strongly against that, but it ain't gonna happen for any pitcher. Liriano should be the CY Young and Rookie of the Year, IMO.


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if things continue as they have for the past month, morneau will be remembered as more valuable than mauer. he's clutch and he has power. his bat has decided more games than mauer's. ortiz iz the shit, but he doesn't play in the field. i just don't think dh's should win mvp.

and phatj, you fucking rule. your threads are like the mashed potato sculpture in close encounters, if you know what i mean.




I completely agree with this.


I haven't seen it. Therefor I really don't get the annology.


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you have to credit some of liriano's success to mauer, no?

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mauer is a much more valuable player than morneau. as great as morneau has been, he hasn't even been the best player in the league at his position. giambi has been slightly better. morneau should be way down the mvp list. mauer should be right in the thick of it.

mauer's obp is almost 100 points higher as a freaking catcher. it's not that close of a race.

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A little early for this, aren't we?


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inglishteecher wrote:
twoheadedboy wrote:
If any Twin gets the MVP, it's Liriano.

He's certainly my fantasy baseball MVP :D


much as i love him, he only plays every 5 days.


Yes, because a starting pitcher has never won MVP before! (hint: sarcasm. 2nd hint: Roger Clemens 1985)

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as great as morneau has been, he hasn't even been the best player in the league at his position. giambi has been slightly better.


How so?

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Too Big a Man Too Say wrote:
Peter Van Wieren wrote:
as great as morneau has been, he hasn't even been the best player in the league at his position. giambi has been slightly better.


How so?

Giambi has a big edge in OBP...and the gap will likely be even bigger at the end of the season.

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PHATJ wrote:
Peter Van Wieren wrote:
if anyone wins from that team it should be mauer.



Justin Morneau's season stats thru July 26:

AVG .313 (12th in AL)
HR 27 (6th in AL)
RBI 84 (2nd in AL)
OB% .359 (28th in AL)
SLG% .597 (7th in AL)
OPS .956 (9th in AL)
Runs 57 (29th in AL)
Hits 111 (16th in AL)


Joe Mauer's season stats thru July 26:

AVG .375 (1st in AL)
HR 8 (71st in AL)
RBI 54 (32nd in AL)
OB% .449 (1st in AL)
SLG% .534 (13th in AL)
OPS .983 (7th in AL)
Runs 53 (41st in AL)
Hits 123 (7th in AL)

To me this is an INCREDIBLY close call. Both are deserving of major consideration. It really is an incredibly hard call. Morneau's power numbers and run production numbers give his the slightest edge in my book.

Who bats first between these two in the order? If it's Mauer....how many times has he been the run that scored, thus giving Morneau the RBI? In other words, how many of Morneau's RBI's have plated Mauer?

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