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That's awsome. I still wonder though about his willingness to go to third if that comes up. I'm sure that was part of the negotiations. But it's good, because now we don't have to rush the kid up from the minors. It will be sad to see OC and eventually Billy Mueller in different uniforms, but what can you do.
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That's awsome. I still wonder though about his willingness to go to third if that comes up. I'm sure that was part of the negotiations. But it's good, because now we don't have to rush the kid up from the minors. It will be sad to see OC and eventually Billy Mueller in different uniforms, but what can you do.
That's all I know is that Red Sox have absolutely no room to bitch about the Yankees and their spending habits.
Congratulations. It must be nice to be a fan of a team that spends ridiculous amounts of money to the exclusion of others.
That's all I know is that Red Sox have absolutely no room to bitch about the Yankees and their spending habits.
Congratulations. It must be nice to be a fan of a team that spends ridiculous amounts of money to the exclusion of others.
now now, thats not fair, after years of bitching about how the yanks do things, now that they are doing said same things, it's ok, because the yanks do it
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Peeps wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
That's all I know is that Red Sox have absolutely no room to bitch about the Yankees and their spending habits.
Congratulations. It must be nice to be a fan of a team that spends ridiculous amounts of money to the exclusion of others.
now now, thats not fair, after years of bitching about how the yanks do things, now that they are doing said same things, it's ok, because the yanks do it
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There is a possibility that OC will accept arbitration and stay with the Red Sox for '05. He's got until Sunday night(I think) to make a decision. Imagine OC and Renteria up the middle? That would have to be the best tandem in baseball. As far as a possible move to third goes, I think that would only be true if the Sox end up keeping Hanley, who's still 1-2 years away from the bigs. I'd much rather see the Sox package him while his stock is still sky high for some pitching. I'm sure Theo's got something up his sleeve!
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zutmon wrote:
Peeps wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
That's all I know is that Red Sox have absolutely no room to bitch about the Yankees and their spending habits.
Congratulations. It must be nice to be a fan of a team that spends ridiculous amounts of money to the exclusion of others.
now now, thats not fair, after years of bitching about how the yanks do things, now that they are doing said same things, it's ok, because the yanks do it
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Peeps wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
That's all I know is that Red Sox have absolutely no room to bitch about the Yankees and their spending habits.
Congratulations. It must be nice to be a fan of a team that spends ridiculous amounts of money to the exclusion of others.
now now, thats not fair, after years of bitching about how the yanks do things, now that they are doing said same things, it's ok, because the yanks do it
I guess that's fine . . . but he still can't pitch on opening day.
And to the original poster that mentioned Ben Sheets . . . he's not going to be traded. But then again, if you want a player, I'm sure you'll pull all the stops out to get him. Just wait until he's a free agent and give him 5 years for $100 million dollars.
Maybe the rest of the teams should sell membership cards.
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Malcolm Sex wrote:
There is a possibility that OC will accept arbitration and stay with the Red Sox for '05. He's got until Sunday night(I think) to make a decision. Imagine OC and Renteria up the middle? That would have to be the best tandem in baseball. As far as a possible move to third goes, I think that would only be true if the Sox end up keeping Hanley, who's still 1-2 years away from the bigs. I'd much rather see the Sox package him while his stock is still sky high for some pitching. I'm sure Theo's got something up his sleeve!
There is a possibility that OC will accept arbitration and stay with the Red Sox for '05. He's got until Sunday night(I think) to make a decision. Imagine OC and Renteria up the middle? That would have to be the best tandem in baseball. As far as a possible move to third goes, I think that would only be true if the Sox end up keeping Hanley, who's still 1-2 years away from the bigs. I'd much rather see the Sox package him while his stock is still sky high for some pitching. I'm sure Theo's got something up his sleeve!
michael young and soriano are the best.
Defensively, there is no way they could hold a candle to ER+OC
I guess that's fine . . . but he still can't pitch on opening day.
And to the original poster that mentioned Ben Sheets . . . he's not going to be traded. But then again, if you want a player, I'm sure you'll pull all the stops out to get him. Just wait until he's a free agent and give him 5 years for $100 million dollars.
Maybe the rest of the teams should sell membership cards.
i think you missed the almost lethal dose of sarcasm in my post. i find it quite funny that all the boston fans did was bitch and moan about the yankees spending to get arod, but at the same time, where praying that they got arod to come to boston
Ben Sheets . . . he's not going to be traded. But then again, if you want a player, I'm sure you'll pull all the stops out to get him. Just wait until he's a free agent and give him 5 years for $100 million dollars.
The days of those major contracts are over... you see anyone jumping on the Beltran 10 year $200 million bus? Mark my word that the Brewers trade sheets, probably not before the season starts, in hopes that he'll re-sign for less money, but come the trading deadline when the Brew crew are far from contention and a team offers some young prospects, he'll be gone!! They know that he'll command the money on the free agent market that they just can't afford, so you'd better trade him than lose him outright(and possibly get a draft pick for him).
I guess that's fine . . . but he still can't pitch on opening day.
And to the original poster that mentioned Ben Sheets . . . he's not going to be traded. But then again, if you want a player, I'm sure you'll pull all the stops out to get him. Just wait until he's a free agent and give him 5 years for $100 million dollars.
Maybe the rest of the teams should sell membership cards.
i think you missed the almost lethal dose of sarcasm in my post. i find it quite funny that all the boston fans did was bitch and moan about the yankees spending to get arod, but at the same time, where praying that they got arod to come to boston
Boston was mad because it was the player's union that fucked that whole scenario up with Arod. There is no one who's a fan of the Red Sox that wouldn't admit that they spend a LOT of money on their player's too, but in comparison to the Yanks it's much smaller. The Yanks payroll, which is quickly approaching $300 million per, is more than the 10 lowest teams payroll's combined. The Sox, which will probably be 2 or 3 overall this year, next to the Mets, will only be half of what the Yanks are dolling out. Until there is a salary cap put in place in baseball, this is the way it's always gonna be. Do I think it's fair, NO. But it's a business and if a team can afford to pay the players because the teams do well financially, should they not?
[ Boston was mad because it was the player's union that fucked that whole scenario up with Arod. There is no one who's a fan of the Red Sox that wouldn't admit that they spend a LOT of money on their player's too, but in comparison to the Yanks it's much smaller. The Yanks payroll, which is quickly approaching $300 million per, is more than the 10 lowest teams payroll's combined. The Sox, which will probably be 2 or 3 overall this year, next to the Mets, will only be half of what the Yanks are dolling out. Until there is a salary cap put in place in baseball, this is the way it's always gonna be. Do I think it's fair, NO. But it's a business and if a team can afford to pay the players because the teams do well financially, should they not?
i have no idea what every teams payroll is, but im sure the sox payroll is probably close to being the combined 5-7 lowest teams payrolls.
and funny how you come off sounding like youre criticizing the yanks in the bold, yet you state the part in italics
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Malcolm Sex wrote:
The days of those major contracts are over... you see anyone jumping on the Beltran 10 year $200 million bus?
That doesn't mean the days of teams with payrolls exceeding $150 million are over. Just because Beltran won't sign for A-Rod money doesn't mean the days of ridiculous contracts are over. See, Omar Visquel, Troy Glaus, Guzman, Pedro Martinez. What do all these guys have in common? Too many years for too much money.
Malcolm Sex wrote:
Mark my word that the Brewers trade sheets, probably not before the season starts, in hopes that he'll re-sign for less money, but come the trading deadline when the Brew crew are far from contention and a team offers some young prospects, he'll be gone!! They know that he'll command the money on the free agent market that they just can't afford, so you'd better trade him than lose him outright(and possibly get a draft pick for him).
I disagree. The Brewers are gearing for the future, and if they are going to spend money on one player, it will be Ben Sheets. Their payroll can only increase from last year's $39 million. They just traded for Carlos Lee and just got Jose Capellan in the Kolb deal. They need to attract fans back to the ballpark. People in Milwaukee are pissed about the stadium deal they forked over $200 million for when the club's payroll hovered around $40 million. In light of Ben Selig divesting himself of any ownership interests, the organization needs someone like Ben Sheets to win back the confidence of the fans.
Nevertheless, how in the world would the Red Sox be able to afford Sheets? Who do they have in their farm system they could give up?
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Peeps wrote:
Chris_H_2 wrote:
I guess that's fine . . . but he still can't pitch on opening day.
And to the original poster that mentioned Ben Sheets . . . he's not going to be traded. But then again, if you want a player, I'm sure you'll pull all the stops out to get him. Just wait until he's a free agent and give him 5 years for $100 million dollars.
Maybe the rest of the teams should sell membership cards.
i think you missed the almost lethal dose of sarcasm in my post. i find it quite funny that all the boston fans did was bitch and moan about the yankees spending to get arod, but at the same time, where praying that they got arod to come to boston
No, I got it . . . I guess I wasn't clear that was the case.
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