WASHINGTON -- Former Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett asked the Supreme Court to reconsider his lawsuit challenging the NFL's draft eligibility rule.
The request was filed Monday, said Clarett's attorney, Alan Milstein. The NFL has 30 days to respond, and a decision on whether the case will be heard probably would come soon after.
"He believes that he should have been allowed to play in the league when he was ready and when the league was ready to have him," Milstein said Tuesday.
A lower court judge ruled last year that Clarett was eligible for the draft, saying the NFL violated federal antitrust laws with its rule barring eligibility until a player was three years out of high school.
But a three-judge appeals panel blocked the player from entering the 2004 draft, saying federal labor policy allows NFL teams to set rules for when players can enter the league. Then, on the eve of the draft, Clarett filed an emergency appeal with the Supreme Court but two justices turned him down.
"The Supreme Court already has declined to intervene in this case," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Tuesday. "We do not expect the court to view the current petition any differently."
Clarett was only two years out of high school when he originally took the NFL to court. He will be eligible for this April's draft no matter what happens in court.
"He believes that other young people deserve that right and privilege," Milstein said.
Clarett rushed for 1,237 yards and 16 touchdowns as a freshman in 2002, leading Ohio State to the national championship. He was suspended before the 2003 season for accepting money from a family friend and lying about it to NCAA and Ohio State investigators.
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I think players should be able to get into the NFL right out of high school. If a pro team wants to take a shot with an 18 year old kid then by all means go for it, it is their gamble. And if a college freshman has one great season and wants to go to the NFL, then they should be able to go for it as well. They're old enough to evaluate the risks and rewards of their decisions.
WASHINGTON -- Former Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett asked the Supreme Court to reconsider his lawsuit challenging the NFL's draft eligibility rule.
The request was filed Monday, said Clarett's attorney, Alan Milstein. The NFL has 30 days to respond, and a decision on whether the case will be heard probably would come soon after.
"He believes that he should have been allowed to play in the league when he was ready and when the league was ready to have him," Milstein said Tuesday.
A lower court judge ruled last year that Clarett was eligible for the draft, saying the NFL violated federal antitrust laws with its rule barring eligibility until a player was three years out of high school.
But a three-judge appeals panel blocked the player from entering the 2004 draft, saying federal labor policy allows NFL teams to set rules for when players can enter the league. Then, on the eve of the draft, Clarett filed an emergency appeal with the Supreme Court but two justices turned him down.
"The Supreme Court already has declined to intervene in this case," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Tuesday. "We do not expect the court to view the current petition any differently."
Clarett was only two years out of high school when he originally took the NFL to court. He will be eligible for this April's draft no matter what happens in court.
"He believes that other young people deserve that right and privilege," Milstein said.
Clarett rushed for 1,237 yards and 16 touchdowns as a freshman in 2002, leading Ohio State to the national championship. He was suspended before the 2003 season for accepting money from a family friend and lying about it to NCAA and Ohio State investigators.
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flavdave wrote:
I think players should be able to get into the NFL right out of high school. If a pro team wants to take a shot with an 18 year old kid then by all means go for it, it is their gamble. And if a college freshman has one great season and wants to go to the NFL, then they should be able to go for it as well. They're old enough to evaluate the risks and rewards of their decisions.
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flavdave wrote:
I think players should be able to get into the NFL right out of high school. If a pro team wants to take a shot with an 18 year old kid then by all means go for it, it is their gamble. And if a college freshman has one great season and wants to go to the NFL, then they should be able to go for it as well. They're old enough to evaluate the risks and rewards of their decisions.
We already had the NBA go to shit by doing this. Teams start paying boatloads of money on potential rather than performance. Then again, non-guaranteed contracts avoids some of this....but, on the other hand teams would start overpaying with bonuses. I would hate to see this in the NFL, I like the current elegibility rules just the way they are.
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jimmac24 wrote:
flavdave wrote:
I think players should be able to get into the NFL right out of high school. If a pro team wants to take a shot with an 18 year old kid then by all means go for it, it is their gamble. And if a college freshman has one great season and wants to go to the NFL, then they should be able to go for it as well. They're old enough to evaluate the risks and rewards of their decisions.
We already had the NBA go to shit by doing this. Teams start paying boatloads of money on potential rather than performance. Then again, non-guaranteed contracts avoids some of this....but, on the other hand teams would start overpaying with bonuses. I would hate to see this in the NFL, I like the current elegibility rules just the way they are.
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flavdave wrote:
I think players should be able to get into the NFL right out of high school. If a pro team wants to take a shot with an 18 year old kid then by all means go for it, it is their gamble. And if a college freshman has one great season and wants to go to the NFL, then they should be able to go for it as well. They're old enough to evaluate the risks and rewards of their decisions.
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I want to know why is it that an organization cannot set its own rules and why do the rules out there need to taken to court?
I don't think its an age discrimination thing, and its certainly not a race thing, so what is so wrong with the NFL saying that they want potential "employees" to have been out of high school for 2 years?
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LBC wrote:
I want to know why is it that an organization cannot set its own rules and why do the rules out there need to taken to court?
I don't think its an age discrimination thing, and its certainly not a race thing, so what is so wrong with the NFL saying that they want potential "employees" to have been out of high school for 2 years?
Very true. It's no different than an employer wanting their employees to have an associate's degree or more. They feel the extra training is what is needed.
And as for what his point is at this time, I think he just wants some cash cause he realizes he'll never hit it big in the NFL.
WASHINGTON -- Former Ohio State running back Maurice Clarett asked the Supreme Court to reconsider his lawsuit challenging the NFL's draft eligibility rule.
The request was filed Monday, said Clarett's attorney, Alan Milstein. The NFL has 30 days to respond, and a decision on whether the case will be heard probably would come soon after.
"He believes that he should have been allowed to play in the league when he was ready and when the league was ready to have him," Milstein said Tuesday.
A lower court judge ruled last year that Clarett was eligible for the draft, saying the NFL violated federal antitrust laws with its rule barring eligibility until a player was three years out of high school.
But a three-judge appeals panel blocked the player from entering the 2004 draft, saying federal labor policy allows NFL teams to set rules for when players can enter the league. Then, on the eve of the draft, Clarett filed an emergency appeal with the Supreme Court but two justices turned him down.
"The Supreme Court already has declined to intervene in this case," NFL spokesman Greg Aiello said Tuesday. "We do not expect the court to view the current petition any differently."
Clarett was only two years out of high school when he originally took the NFL to court. He will be eligible for this April's draft no matter what happens in court.
"He believes that other young people deserve that right and privilege," Milstein said.
Clarett rushed for 1,237 yards and 16 touchdowns as a freshman in 2002, leading Ohio State to the national championship. He was suspended before the 2003 season for accepting money from a family friend and lying about it to NCAA and Ohio State investigators.
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peterson cant even hack USC, id hate to seem him trying to play against ray lewis or the steelers d in the next couple of years.
peterson cant even hack USC, id hate to seem him trying to play against ray lewis or the steelers d in the next couple of years.
That's why I agree with the NFL draft rules we have now... ever so slowly the standard would be lower and lower and eventually the intensity wouldn't be near as high when the league average age is 20... the NBA can survive (barely) with a younger net age because it's a no contact game...
The bottomline should be that a rookie shouldn't be able to come into a professional level of ANYTHING and dominate like you can in the NBA... there should be no rookie (except for some serious exceptions like guys like Ben Rothelisberger, who I wouldn't exactly say is dominating) that could have an impact like Lebron or Carmello in their first years in the NFL... I like how it is now... in my opinion, if kids are able to come out of high school, it's going to be slow going at first (of course) because of guys like Ray Lewis and Julian Peterson on the defensive side... but as time progresses those guys retire and younger guys replace them... it happened in the NBA and it's just boring to watch now... I don't want that to happen to the NFL
peterson cant even hack USC, id hate to seem him trying to play against ray lewis or the steelers d in the next couple of years.
That's why I agree with the NFL draft rules we have now... ever so slowly the standard would be lower and lower and eventually the intensity wouldn't be near as high when the league average age is 20... the NBA can survive (barely) with a younger net age because it's a no contact game...
The bottomline should be that a rookie shouldn't be able to come into a professional level of ANYTHING and dominate like you can in the NBA... there should be no rookie (except for some serious exceptions like guys like Ben Rothelisberger, who I wouldn't exactly say is dominating) that could have an impact like Lebron or Carmello in their first years in the NFL... I like how it is now... in my opinion, if kids are able to come out of high school, it's going to be slow going at first (of course) because of guys like Ray Lewis and Julian Peterson on the defensive side... but as time progresses those guys retire and younger guys replace them... it happened in the NBA and it's just boring to watch now... I don't want that to happen to the NFL
i agree, the nba is a watered down product now, with the exception of lebron and carmello and a few others most high schoolers or freshmen that go to the nba dont make it, or it takes them several years to be any type of players and means we get to watch shitty players play against the best players in the world. but the nfl is a different beast, there is a huge difference between the nfl and college, adrian peterson actually considered entering the draft last year before the final decision on this came down, and basically, his career wouldve been over before it started, hes going to be a good nfl back i think in a few years, but there is no way a high school kid can play at that level, they would be done before preseason was over. getting hit by ray lewis or john lynch isnt the same thing as getting hit by billy bob at central high, hell getting hit by most sec or big ten linebackers isnt like getting hit by those guys.
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I agree with what the last few posts have said. The NFL is a different beast than the NBA. You can't be 18-19 and dominate the NFL. It's just not gonna happen. It's so much more of a team game with so many different schemes and such that it's just not possible no matter how talented you are. Mentally and physically you aren't gonna be able to do it. If that one exception happens it is just going to make the NFL what it doesn't want to be......any other popular American sport. The NFL is fine the way it is. These kids can suck it up and stay in college for 2 years. Is that really too much to ask? If they need to pay bills then try out for the CFL or live off the illegal money from the boosters.. You don't need to be a millionaire in a year.
I agree with what the last few posts have said. The NFL is a different beast than the NBA. You can't be 18-19 and dominate the NFL. It's just not gonna happen. It's so much more of a team game with so many different schemes and such that it's just not possible no matter how talented you are. Mentally and physically you aren't gonna be able to do it. If that one exception happens it is just going to make the NFL what it doesn't want to be......any other popular American sport. The NFL is fine the way it is. These kids can suck it up and stay in college for 2 years. Is that really too much to ask? If they need to pay bills then try out for the CFL or live off the illegal money from the boosters.. You don't need to be a millionaire in a year.
exactly, i didnt speak of the mental aspect of it, but the nfl is definately more mentally demanding than anything a 18-19 year old has experienced, dealing with the press and criticism and such not to mention the constant traveling and hours you put into it during the week. plus, they better get the free education because all it takes is a serious injury to knock you out of the league, and you cant collect an nfl pension unless youve been under contract for 9 seasons i believe.
Personally, I was hoping for Clarett to make it and then have several LBs make him the perennial #1 on Jacked Up!
Then that would prove, on the field, that they're too young.
i think the primadonna will get that anyway, hes already ruffled some feathers he didnt need to ruffle.
If anybody actually wastes a draft pick on Clarett there are a lot of NFL LBers and DLmen who would love nothing more than to put him on his ass for good
Personally, I was hoping for Clarett to make it and then have several LBs make him the perennial #1 on Jacked Up!
Then that would prove, on the field, that they're too young.
i think the primadonna will get that anyway, hes already ruffled some feathers he didnt need to ruffle.
If anybody actually wastes a draft pick on Clarett there are a lot of NFL LBers and DLmen who would love nothing more than to put him on his ass for good
and i cant wait, the asshole better not be a titan though or i boycott next season.
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LBC wrote:
I want to know why is it that an organization cannot set its own rules and why do the rules out there need to taken to court?
I don't think its an age discrimination thing, and its certainly not a race thing, so what is so wrong with the NFL saying that they want potential "employees" to have been out of high school for 2 years?
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