Thanks Depodesta, for not bowing down to the evil empire! Who tried everything they could to strong arm the Dodgers into helping them get Unit, only to see it fall apart.

Leaking the story to the NY papers when the deal was FAR from completed was dirty, and Depo said a big fuck you to the bombers. Nice!

Id be happier if I didnt just find out the Dodgers signed an injury-prone one year wonder JD Drew, who will NEVER break 25 home runs again in his career....55mill for 5 yrs? WHAT THE FUCK?

was the trade THAT bad for LA?

they get rid of Green's ridiculous salary, as well as Ishii who sucks.

Despite Vasquez's awful second half last year, I still think he's an upgrade over Penny - a guy who's gone over 200 innings exactly one time in his career. Not to mention Penny's arm problems.

Get Vasquez a pitching coach with a clue, and I have a feeling he'll be just fine.

yes it was, because they lose the only HR hitter they have in Green, the only "Ace" pitcher they have in Penny, one of the best set up men in the game in BRazabon, and they would get a disgruntled pitcher in return and thats it.

This trade was awful from the start. If Depo turned it into a hitter and 2 starting pitchers it would have been decent, but as it stood it completely fucked the 2005 Dodgers.....

you can replace Green's (declining) production at 1B for less money than what he's making.

If Penny is their Ace, they have bigger problems than any trade they might make.

Losing Brazoban is a loss, but Koplove is decent.

Who says Vasques was disgruntled? the guy's agent said he would take physical after his vacation.

As much as I would have loved Randy here, it's not the worst trade ever..I know you meant it tongue and cheek.....

willie mcgee for bob sykes
the jay buhner trade.....

Vazquez's agent was doing damage control. he didnt want to pitch in LA and would have demanded a trade after the first yr.

Not to mention sending our best players to a division rival, all to further the cause of the evil empire?

this trade was garbage for LA, everyone benefitted BUT the Dodgers

according to PJguy, the trade to GET Penny was the worst trade ever last summer.

Now he's getting rid of Penny, and it's even worse than that!

how can that be?

im so glad the dodgers finally woke up from their deep sleep and realized that the trade was going to put them in last place . maybe they are ready to make some moves. good sign in j.d. drew

because Penny is the only close to a decent starting pitcher LA has. And this trade isnt about losing Penny, its losing a top line starter, the best set up man in NL, AND a power hitting OF to a division rival and recieving a border line ace pitcher who wants nothing to do with the dodgers.

why you cant see my point is beyond me...are you a yankees fan?

no last place as long as the Rockies are there

hey doug, no way was i tongue in cheek....this really was an all time stinker for the dodgers. I think Depo realized it all along but was pressured by his cheap-ass owner and from the yankees to finish it off.

how can stocking your division rival with a shitload of talent be good? And to get nothing in return but overhyped prospects and Javier Vasquez, who doesnt want to play in LA?

Penny for Vasquez was a wash, and gaining Dioner Navarro as a catching prospect would have been a huge move. Dumping Green's ridiculous contract is priority #1 for that team. What's the stink about the deal again?

im done explaining it to people who have no clue. you wanna think this trade was good? go ahead. just know that every real dodger fan is completely relieved this assfuck of a trade fell thru.

even if we have to suffer thru another season of Kaz Ishii!!

Do you know anything about Dioner Navarro?

How would penny for Vazquez be a wash AS?, if remember last year when I said how awful Vazquez was then when the yankees traded for him, u came to his aid, I wish i still had the post, where did all your vasquez support go?

They both have the ability to win 20 and strike out 250. Neither of them has their shit together right now. If it were me, I'd rather have Vasquez because his track record is better and he'd be going into Dodger Stadium, home of low low low ERAs and Eric Gagne saving your games.

I still support him. I'd love to have him on Oakland or Detroit.

I know Navarro is as overhyped as every other yankee "prospect" that team tries to peddle off on others when they buy their superstars.

The only stud in the deal would have been Eric Duncan, but he wouldnt be MLB ready till at least 2007-2008

AND navarro is at least 2 years away from the Bigs too.

so LA should make that trade so they can MAYBE have a starting catcher in 2007?

Your best players? Brazoban has a chance to be elite, but if downgrading from him to Koplove (which may not even be a downgrade) allows you to get rid of Green and Ishii - while still picking up prospects - then it's probaby worth it.

Again, if your "best players" are Green and Penny, you may as well shed their salaries and look past '05.

are you the agent for these guys? nothing you say can make me or other Dodgers fans any less exstatic that this fuck-up of a trade isnt happening.

peace