Post subject: Re: USA B-Ball: 1992 Dream Team Vs. 2007 Team
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:02 pm
Unthought Known
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the 1992 team would win 8/10 games. Put MJ on the 2007 team, and they'd win 8/10 times.
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Post subject: Re: USA B-Ball: 1992 Dream Team Vs. 2007 Team
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 5:51 pm
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pearljamminagain wrote:
Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
the 1992 team would win 8/10 games. Put MJ on the 2007 team, and they'd win 8/10 times.
No way.
The '92 team is dominant at every position. It's not even close.
yeah, no dominance at all on the 2007 team. the 1992 versions of Bird/Magic would be HUGE defensive liabilities. MJ in his prime was the best of all time...nobody on the 92 team could stop him except maybe Pippen...and Jordan would have eventually destroyed him mentally.
_________________ “You’re good kids, stay together. Trust each other and be good teammates to one another. I believe there is a championship in this room.”
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Post subject: Re: USA B-Ball: 1992 Dream Team Vs. 2007 Team
Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:33 pm
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Im going to play devils advocate here.
I think the '92 team is better than the '07 team. But maybe not the '08 team. Add Bosh, Wade, Pierce and Arenas and remove Chandler, Miller, Prince and Williams... i think you could make the argument.
A lot of the '92 team was getting up there in age- Magic and Bird specifically.
C- Howard and Bosh would be significantly more athletic and useful in the international game then Robinson and Ewing. Edge- '08
PF- Anthony (i dont see him as a PF, but oh well) and Stoudamire again probably have an athletic advantage over the '92 team. Malone obviously was a great scorer, and would probably run over them though. Barkley was in his prime, but i wonder if his height would have been in an issue in an era where PF are running a legit 6'10. Laettner is a non factor in this discussion, unless you count him as an overall negative for depth.
SF- Bird is one of the greatest players ever. However, by '92 his back was shot. Pippen was a decent player. Mullin is a non factor- although not to the extent that Laettner is. If Anthony is going to be a PF.. then Ill call Wade a SF, and along with LeBron.. you have 2 guys- both improving that have been to the NBA finals essentially on their abilities alone. EDGE- '08 team
SG- Jordan may be the best player ever, but in terms of scoring, Kobe is pretty impressive. Kobe is also a decent defender. No championship pedigree without Shaq though. I think Arenas may be a better scorer than Drexler. Redd is probably the best Pure shooter of the SG listed for either team.. but he still doesnt make up for the Jordan Factor- EDGE- '92
PG- Magic, like bird, was on his last legs, but still a great player... But Kidd does a lot of the same things that magic did- just without the LA following and without the "showtime" ability. He's on his last legs as well. Billups physical strength as a defender would be useful against a guy like magic. Stockton is a better PG than Billups on O, but I think the Kidd/Billups combo might be able to negate that. EDGE- Draw
I think the '08 team would give the '92 team a run for its money.
Post subject: Re: USA B-Ball: 1992 Dream Team Vs. 2007 Team
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 4:46 am
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Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:17 pm Posts: 45120
edzeppe wrote:
Im going to play devils advocate here.
I think the '92 team is better than the '07 team. But maybe not the '08 team. Add Bosh, Wade, Pierce and Arenas and remove Chandler, Miller, Prince and Williams... i think you could make the argument.
A lot of the '92 team was getting up there in age- Magic and Bird specifically.
C- Howard and Bosh would be significantly more athletic and useful in the international game then Robinson and Ewing. Edge- '08
PF- Anthony (i dont see him as a PF, but oh well) and Stoudamire again probably have an athletic advantage over the '92 team. Malone obviously was a great scorer, and would probably run over them though. Barkley was in his prime, but i wonder if his height would have been in an issue in an era where PF are running a legit 6'10. Laettner is a non factor in this discussion, unless you count him as an overall negative for depth.
SF- Bird is one of the greatest players ever. However, by '92 his back was shot. Pippen was a decent player. Mullin is a non factor- although not to the extent that Laettner is. If Anthony is going to be a PF.. then Ill call Wade a SF, and along with LeBron.. you have 2 guys- both improving that have been to the NBA finals essentially on their abilities alone. EDGE- '08 team
SG- Jordan may be the best player ever, but in terms of scoring, Kobe is pretty impressive. Kobe is also a decent defender. No championship pedigree without Shaq though. I think Arenas may be a better scorer than Drexler. Redd is probably the best Pure shooter of the SG listed for either team.. but he still doesnt make up for the Jordan Factor- EDGE- '92
PG- Magic, like bird, was on his last legs, but still a great player... But Kidd does a lot of the same things that magic did- just without the LA following and without the "showtime" ability. He's on his last legs as well. Billups physical strength as a defender would be useful against a guy like magic. Stockton is a better PG than Billups on O, but I think the Kidd/Billups combo might be able to negate that. EDGE- Draw
I think the '08 team would give the '92 team a run for its money.
Isn't this '07 team going to be the '08 team? I mean the point of this Basketball Tourney this year was to see what two teams got automatic births into the summer games of '08. Or am I wrong?
Post subject: Re: USA B-Ball: 1992 Dream Team Vs. 2007 Team
Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:59 am
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Wes C. Addle wrote:
edzeppe wrote:
Im going to play devils advocate here.
I think the '92 team is better than the '07 team. But maybe not the '08 team. Add Bosh, Wade, Pierce and Arenas and remove Chandler, Miller, Prince and Williams... i think you could make the argument.
A lot of the '92 team was getting up there in age- Magic and Bird specifically.
C- Howard and Bosh would be significantly more athletic and useful in the international game then Robinson and Ewing. Edge- '08
PF- Anthony (i dont see him as a PF, but oh well) and Stoudamire again probably have an athletic advantage over the '92 team. Malone obviously was a great scorer, and would probably run over them though. Barkley was in his prime, but i wonder if his height would have been in an issue in an era where PF are running a legit 6'10. Laettner is a non factor in this discussion, unless you count him as an overall negative for depth.
SF- Bird is one of the greatest players ever. However, by '92 his back was shot. Pippen was a decent player. Mullin is a non factor- although not to the extent that Laettner is. If Anthony is going to be a PF.. then Ill call Wade a SF, and along with LeBron.. you have 2 guys- both improving that have been to the NBA finals essentially on their abilities alone. EDGE- '08 team
SG- Jordan may be the best player ever, but in terms of scoring, Kobe is pretty impressive. Kobe is also a decent defender. No championship pedigree without Shaq though. I think Arenas may be a better scorer than Drexler. Redd is probably the best Pure shooter of the SG listed for either team.. but he still doesnt make up for the Jordan Factor- EDGE- '92
PG- Magic, like bird, was on his last legs, but still a great player... But Kidd does a lot of the same things that magic did- just without the LA following and without the "showtime" ability. He's on his last legs as well. Billups physical strength as a defender would be useful against a guy like magic. Stockton is a better PG than Billups on O, but I think the Kidd/Billups combo might be able to negate that. EDGE- Draw
I think the '08 team would give the '92 team a run for its money.
Isn't this '07 team going to be the '08 team? I mean the point of this Basketball Tourney this year was to see what two teams got automatic births into the summer games of '08. Or am I wrong?
The team gets an automatic birth, not the roster specifically. The USA roster has like 20 guys on it- and they can pick the actual team from any combination of those guys. Some guys (like the ones i mentioned, as well as a couple of others) are all on the larger roster, and just couldnt play this year (personal commitments, injury recovery, etc).
NBA TV is running a great doc on the Dream Team. They actually taped all their practices and they show some of it. I'd pay real money to watch those start to finish.
Post subject: Re: USA B-Ball: 1992 Dream Team Vs. 2007 Team
Posted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 9:18 pm
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Skitch Patterson wrote:
Im going to play devils advocate here.
I think the '92 team is better than the '07 team. But maybe not the '08 team. Add Bosh, Wade, Pierce and Arenas and remove Chandler, Miller, Prince and Williams... i think you could make the argument.
A lot of the '92 team was getting up there in age- Magic and Bird specifically.
C- Howard and Bosh would be significantly more athletic and useful in the international game then Robinson and Ewing. Edge- '08
PF- Anthony (i dont see him as a PF, but oh well) and Stoudamire again probably have an athletic advantage over the '92 team. Malone obviously was a great scorer, and would probably run over them though. Barkley was in his prime, but i wonder if his height would have been in an issue in an era where PF are running a legit 6'10. Laettner is a non factor in this discussion, unless you count him as an overall negative for depth.
SF- Bird is one of the greatest players ever. However, by '92 his back was shot. Pippen was a decent player. Mullin is a non factor- although not to the extent that Laettner is. If Anthony is going to be a PF.. then Ill call Wade a SF, and along with LeBron.. you have 2 guys- both improving that have been to the NBA finals essentially on their abilities alone. EDGE- '08 team
SG- Jordan may be the best player ever, but in terms of scoring, Kobe is pretty impressive. Kobe is also a decent defender. No championship pedigree without Shaq though. I think Arenas may be a better scorer than Drexler. Redd is probably the best Pure shooter of the SG listed for either team.. but he still doesnt make up for the Jordan Factor- EDGE- '92
PG- Magic, like bird, was on his last legs, but still a great player... But Kidd does a lot of the same things that magic did- just without the LA following and without the "showtime" ability. He's on his last legs as well. Billups physical strength as a defender would be useful against a guy like magic. Stockton is a better PG than Billups on O, but I think the Kidd/Billups combo might be able to negate that. EDGE- Draw
I think the '08 team would give the '92 team a run for its money.
Post subject: Re: USA B-Ball: 1992 Dream Team Vs. 2007 Team
Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 2:25 am
Spacegirl
Joined: Sat Oct 16, 2004 11:54 pm Posts: 40914
Skitch Patterson wrote:
Skitch Patterson wrote:
Im going to play devils advocate here.
I think the '92 team is better than the '07 team. But maybe not the '08 team. Add Bosh, Wade, Pierce and Arenas and remove Chandler, Miller, Prince and Williams... i think you could make the argument.
A lot of the '92 team was getting up there in age- Magic and Bird specifically.
C- Howard and Bosh would be significantly more athletic and useful in the international game then Robinson and Ewing. Edge- '08
PF- Anthony (i dont see him as a PF, but oh well) and Stoudamire again probably have an athletic advantage over the '92 team. Malone obviously was a great scorer, and would probably run over them though. Barkley was in his prime, but i wonder if his height would have been in an issue in an era where PF are running a legit 6'10. Laettner is a non factor in this discussion, unless you count him as an overall negative for depth.
SF- Bird is one of the greatest players ever. However, by '92 his back was shot. Pippen was a decent player. Mullin is a non factor- although not to the extent that Laettner is. If Anthony is going to be a PF.. then Ill call Wade a SF, and along with LeBron.. you have 2 guys- both improving that have been to the NBA finals essentially on their abilities alone. EDGE- '08 team
SG- Jordan may be the best player ever, but in terms of scoring, Kobe is pretty impressive. Kobe is also a decent defender. No championship pedigree without Shaq though. I think Arenas may be a better scorer than Drexler. Redd is probably the best Pure shooter of the SG listed for either team.. but he still doesnt make up for the Jordan Factor- EDGE- '92
PG- Magic, like bird, was on his last legs, but still a great player... But Kidd does a lot of the same things that magic did- just without the LA following and without the "showtime" ability. He's on his last legs as well. Billups physical strength as a defender would be useful against a guy like magic. Stockton is a better PG than Billups on O, but I think the Kidd/Billups combo might be able to negate that. EDGE- Draw
I think the '08 team would give the '92 team a run for its money.
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