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PostPosted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 7:18 pm 
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usually i'm in favor of giving the guy a chance and all....but i really so no need to waste any time with cameron. he should me that he's a truly awful coach repeatedly.

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its in the "you're fired" thread already... but the news is just to joyous not to mention here too. :)

Cameron's firing continues Miami's upheaval under Parcells
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DAVIE, Fla. -- Cam Cameron is no longer coach of the Miami Dolphins after getting only one win in his first season.

Cameron was fired Thursday by new Dolphins' boss Bill Parcells, which means the reeling franchise will have its fifth head coach in five seasons in 2008.

Parcells began work Thursday as executive vice president of football operations and quickly concluded the Dolphins need another fresh start.

It has been 37 years since the Dolphins fired a coach. But they never finished 1-15 before.

Cameron was on the job 11 months before he earned his first victory as an NFL head coach. Until Miami beat Baltimore in overtime Dec. 16, he was in danger of becoming the first coach to go 0-16.

Miami has missed the playoffs six consecutive seasons, a franchise record.

Cameron signed a four-year contract in January. Owner Wayne Huizenga hired him over at least 12 other candidates after a two-week coaching search, the most extensive since the franchise's first season in 1966.

The early front-runner to replace Cameron is Cowboys assistant head coach Tony Sparano. He's scheduled to interview Friday for the head-coaching vacancy in Atlanta.

Other coaches -- including some good ones -- have been fired after only one season with a team. The list includes Cameron mentor Marty Schottenheimer (Washington in 2001), Art Shell (Oakland in 2006) and Pete Carroll (New York Jets in 1994).

Cameron maintained a consistently low-key demeanor with the media and his team. The even-keel approach won praise from the locker room during training camp, but as losses mounted, players became coy when asked if they believed in Cameron.

He was hired after five years as offensive coordinator for the high-scoring San Diego Chargers, and the Dolphins' offense showed improvement early in the season. But when John Beck became the third starter at quarterback this year, the unit failed to score a touchdown in three consecutive games, and the rookie returned to the bench.

Cameron took over a team that had gone 19-29 the previous three years and was in decline following a series of bad drafts. Poor depth made this year's wave of injuries catastrophic.

Running back Ronnie Brown led the league in yards from scrimmage when he was sidelined for the season by a knee injury, and Green and linebacker Zach Thomas also went on injured reserve. When 2002 NFL rushing champion Ricky Williams returned from a suspension, he lasted only six carries before a chest injury ended his season.

In addition, top receiver Chris Chambers was traded after six games.

The coach's office became a revolving door in 2004, when Dave Wannstedt quit after nine games and was replaced by Jim Bates. Nick Saban became the coach in 2005 but lasted only two years before leaving for Alabama, and he was succeeded by Cameron.

Seven coaches started a season with a team that went 1-15, and only two returned the following year. Jimmy Johnson went 1-15 his first season in Dallas in 1989 but soon was winning Super Bowls, and Mike Riley remained with San Diego despite winning only once in 2000.

Cameron's only other head coaching job was at Indiana, where he was fired after five seasons. His career record as a head coach is 19-52.

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FUCK YES!!

i am officially returning to dolphins fandom. Now that Mueller and Cameron are gone my one year boycott can officially end.

however I still refuse to accept Ginn. fuck Ginn. that will haunt the Fins for a very ling time, or at least until Feidlerr oops i mean Beck loses the QB job again

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Koufax wrote:
FUCK YES!!

i am officially returning to dolphins fandom. Now that Mueller and Cameron are gone my one year boycott can officially end.

however I still refuse to accept Ginn. fuck Ginn. that will haunt the Fins for a very ling time, or at least until Feidlerr oops i mean Beck loses the QB job again


i'm kinda over the ginn pick. its not a great pick, but i think he'll be an okay WR. bad pick, but it doesn't hamper us going into the offseason. the beck pick i think throws our whole QB situation into confusion. do we draft a QB two years straight? (i personally am not overly enamored with any of this year's QB's) or do we go free agency AGAIN? or do we hope that the guy we drafted because he was older and "more mature" and could "play sooner" has some kind of vision that teaches him how to be a qb all of a sudden?

ugh. we're a long way off.

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Beck is and will be nothing more than a Feidler clone. hes got the same body type, the same scrawny arm. Cameron passing on Quinn was an absolute joke.

you cant take one of these QBs with the #1 pick this year, they arent that good. but do you trade the pick for multiples and then grab a QB later in round 1? who knows

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Koufax wrote:
Beck is and will be nothing more than a Feidler clone. hes got the same body type, the same scrawny arm. Cameron passing on Quinn was an absolute joke.

you cant take one of these QBs with the #1 pick this year, they arent that good. but do you trade the pick for multiples and then grab a QB later in round 1? who knows


They can trade down and still be able to grab a QB in round 2-3. Matt Ryan maybe?


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stay the fuck away from that hawaiian

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Koufax wrote:
you cant take one of these QBs with the #1 pick this year, they arent that good. but do you trade the pick for multiples and then grab a QB later in round 1? who knows


I agree. I don't think there's a franchise QB in this draft. I would prefer getting a QB in round 3-4 if anything. We have so many needs I think we are completely free to go for the best player regardless of position with every pick. One guy I do kind of like is Chad Henne. If he was around in round 4, that might not be a bad pick at all. I dunno.

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Matt Ryan is from BC


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aprilfifth wrote:
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you cant take one of these QBs with the #1 pick this year, they arent that good. but do you trade the pick for multiples and then grab a QB later in round 1? who knows


I agree. I don't think there's a franchise QB in this draft. I would prefer getting a QB in round 3-4 if anything. We have so many needs I think we are completely free to go for the best player regardless of position with every pick. One guy I do kind of like is Chad Henne. If he was around in round 4, that might not be a bad pick at all. I dunno.


Eh i always thought Henne was decent at best


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stevenvill wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
stay the fuck away from that hawaiian


Matt Ryan is from BC


i think he's talking about colt brennan.


and we should stay away form both of 'em.

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stevenvill wrote:
aprilfifth wrote:
Koufax wrote:
you cant take one of these QBs with the #1 pick this year, they arent that good. but do you trade the pick for multiples and then grab a QB later in round 1? who knows


I agree. I don't think there's a franchise QB in this draft. I would prefer getting a QB in round 3-4 if anything. We have so many needs I think we are completely free to go for the best player regardless of position with every pick. One guy I do kind of like is Chad Henne. If he was around in round 4, that might not be a bad pick at all. I dunno.


Eh i always thought Henne was decent at best


Yeah I've never been crazy about him...but he's big, has a strong arm...and if we got him on the second day of the draft, I think he could be worth it.

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aprilfifth wrote:
stevenvill wrote:
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Matt Ryan is from BC


i think he's talking about colt brennan.


and we should stay away form both of 'em.


Well sadly thats about as deep as the qb field in this years draft go's. So if they dont draft them they don't have too many other choices and i dont think the big tuna will not draft a qb relatively quickly. I'm calling 2nd round he picks up a qb and the Fins go into the season with a 3 man race for the starting job.


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Parcells buys a bandage named Bledsoe and drafts other significant need positions this year, and the year after (hopefully with a better QB crop) we can get our franchise guy.

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why is there talk of drew bledsoe?

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why is there talk of drew bledsoe?


Theres no way the Fins are that stupid


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didnt hear any beldsoe talk, but i did hear keshawn to miami talk

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i got bugs wrote:
didnt hear any beldsoe talk, but i did hear keshawn to miami talk


I've heard both. But talk radio is certainly not a real source of info. :lol:

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parcells already has his drew bledsoe, and this addition is named trent green.

lets also not forget that parcells can keep the #1 and take dorsey and then the #1 in the second round any other year, would be a first round pick (you're welcome from NE) so they can could take a QB that falls. I'm thinking Ryan (Atl), Brohm (Balt) and Woodson (Chi) are off the board so one of Chad Henne, John David Booty, Denis Dixon, Colt Brennan and Eric Ainge should be available and could possibly be this drafts version of Big Ben.

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