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 Post subject: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 4:19 pm 
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I've really been enjoying the AFC and AL dominace over the last decade.....however, I'm not enjoying the NBA's Western Conference dominance.

Thoughts? I wonder how long these trends will last?

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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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i think they are overstated in the media.

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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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If the Cards can win last years WS anything can happen.


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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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World Series results last ten years (4 NL champs; 6 AL champs)

2006 St. Louis 4, Detroit 1 David Eckstein
2005 Chi. White Sox 4, Houston 0 Jermaine Dye
2004 Boston 4, St. Louis 0 Manny Ramirez
2003 Florida 4, NY Yankees 2 Josh Beckett
2002 Anaheim 4, San Francisco 3 Troy Glaus
2001 Arizona 4, NY Yankees 3 Schilling/Johnson
2000 NY Yankees 4, NY Mets 1 Derek Jeter
Year Results MVP
1999 NY Yankees 4, Atlanta 0 Mariano Rivera
1998 NY Yankees 4, San Diego 0 Scott Brosius
1997 Florida 4, Cleveland 3

10 Straight AL victories over NL in All-Star Game (including one tie)

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Last Ten Super Bowls (3 NFC winners; 7 AFC winners)

NBA Finals last ten years
(7 West Conf winners; 3 Eatern Conference winners)

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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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Last time I checked you play a team in the championship game, not an entire conference.

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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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Coach wrote:
World Series results (4 NL champs; 6 AL champs)


3 and 3 over the past six years not exactly dominance.


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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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pjam81373 wrote:
Coach wrote:
World Series results (4 NL champs; 6 AL champs)

3 and 3 over the past six years not exactly dominance.


How about six straight AL victories in the All-Star game during that time? And you have to look at individual stars. The AL is loaded.

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pearljamfan80 wrote:
Last time I checked you play a team in the championship game, not an entire conference.


I just checked and the conference champion represents said conference's best team in the tourney. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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Coach wrote:
pjam81373 wrote:
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World Series results (4 NL champs; 6 AL champs)

3 and 3 over the past six years not exactly dominance.


How about six straight AL victories in the All-Star game during that time? And you have to look at individual stars. The AL is loaded.


who cares about the all-star game?


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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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overall league vs. league (or conference vs. conference) records would give a more accurate view than the finals/world series/super bowl.

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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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Coach wrote:
pearljamfan80 wrote:
Last time I checked you play a team in the championship game, not an entire conference.


I just checked and the conference champion represents said conference's best team in the tourney. :lol:


Does it really? Was Pittsburgh the best team in the AFC two years ago? No, most would say Indy/NE/Denver. Was St Louis the best team in the NL last year? No, most would say the Mets were. Was Carolina the best team in the NFC a few years ago? No, most would say the Eagles were. The best team doesn't always win it all, sometimes its the hottest team at the time that does.

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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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This website has done a real good job explaining how not only is the AFC dominating, but how four teams in particular (Broncos, Pats, Steelers, Colts) are dominating:

http://www.chff.net/Articles/11_1660_Ou ... arity.html


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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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pearljamfan80 wrote:
Coach wrote:
pearljamfan80 wrote:
Last time I checked you play a team in the championship game, not an entire conference.


I just checked and the conference champion represents said conference's best team in the tourney. :lol:


Does it really? Was Pittsburgh the best team in the AFC two years ago? No, most would say Indy/NE/Denver. Was St Louis the best team in the NL last year? No, most would say the Mets were. Was Carolina the best team in the NFC a few years ago? No, most would say the Eagles were. The best team doesn't always win it all, sometimes its the hottest team at the time that does.


Using that logic, you question the legitimacy of every champion out there. For example, if Carolina wasn't the best team in the NFC a few years ago and the Eagles were does that make New England's championship not legit? You can't have it both ways. When the game is on the line --- when it counts THE MOST --- the best teams win in the playoffs. The hottest teams in the playoffs are the best teams.

You play the game to win championships; not for best records in the regular season. Just ask that Mariners team that won 100-plus games adn got wiped out in the playoffs.

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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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Green Habit wrote:
This website has done a real good job explaining how not only is the AFC dominating, but how four teams in particular (Broncos, Pats, Steelers, Colts) are dominating:

http://www.chff.net/Articles/11_1660_Ou ... arity.html


Love that site. The guy who runs it is a Bostonian.

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Coach wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
This website has done a real good job explaining how not only is the AFC dominating, but how four teams in particular (Broncos, Pats, Steelers, Colts) are dominating:

http://www.chff.net/Articles/11_1660_Ou ... arity.html


Love that site. The guy who runs it is a Bostonian.

that would certainly explain many of their articles and opinions...

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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
Coach wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
This website has done a real good job explaining how not only is the AFC dominating, but how four teams in particular (Broncos, Pats, Steelers, Colts) are dominating:

http://www.chff.net/Articles/11_1660_Ou ... arity.html


Love that site. The guy who runs it is a Bostonian.

that would certainly explain many of their articles and opinions...


Yup. But they are right on about several things.

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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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pjam81373 wrote:
Coach wrote:
World Series results (4 NL champs; 6 AL champs)


3 and 3 over the past six years not exactly dominance.


The baseball postseason is flukier than football or basketball. But it's clear that the AL has superior talent and the better teams.

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Joesanity wrote:
pjam81373 wrote:
Coach wrote:
World Series results (4 NL champs; 6 AL champs)


3 and 3 over the past six years not exactly dominance.


The baseball postseason is flukier than football or basketball. But it's clear that the AL has superior talent and the better teams.


National League baseball, while it involves more strategy, lacks the DH and that factors in big time in terms of talent in the NL. Your 7,8,9 hitters in the NL are pathetic. Look at the Yanks 7,8,9.

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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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NL baseball is so much better for watching


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 Post subject: Re: AFC (NFL), AL (MLB) and Western Conf. (NBA) Dominance
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thinkforyourself wrote:
NL baseball is so much better for watching

dont tell coach that, he's favorite team is in the AL

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