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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
PostPosted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:30 pm 
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flavdave wrote:
Were the substances Clemens allegedly used banned by baseball in the time period he allegedly used them (1998-2001)?

use of any prescription medication without a valid prescription has been banned in MLB since the early 70's.

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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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fuck schilling, like he never touched the juice

plus he used performance enhancing drugs to beat the yanks in 04, so should he have to give that ring back

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i got bugs wrote:
fuck schilling, like he never touched the juice

plus he used performance enhancing drugs to beat the yanks in 04, so should he have to give that ring back

:lol: if he used drugs to beat the yanks im pretty sure we can call it even

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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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i got bugs wrote:
fuck schilling, like he never touched the juice

plus he used performance enhancing drugs to beat the yanks in 04, so should he have to give that ring back

:finger:

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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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warehouse wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
fuck schilling, like he never touched the juice

plus he used performance enhancing drugs to beat the yanks in 04, so should he have to give that ring back

:lol: if he used drugs to beat the yanks im pretty sure we can call it even

well there's a whole school of thought that says that things like lasik surgery and pain killers aren't much different than PED's. Taking it a step further, some people feel that PED's allow you to cheat at "working out"...as opposed to cheating at baseball...and are not nearly as bad as corking a bat or scuffing a ball. I don't know that I buy into that, but it's certainly a different take on all of it.

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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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warehouse wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
fuck schilling, like he never touched the juice

plus he used performance enhancing drugs to beat the yanks in 04, so should he have to give that ring back

:lol: if he used drugs to beat the yanks im pretty sure we can call it even


he did,i bet he shot up enough milligrams of painkillers that game to fuck up a chinese army

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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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i got bugs wrote:
warehouse wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
fuck schilling, like he never touched the juice

plus he used performance enhancing drugs to beat the yanks in 04, so should he have to give that ring back

:lol: if he used drugs to beat the yanks im pretty sure we can call it even


he did,i bet he shot up enough milligrams of painkillers that game to fuck up a chinese army

but at least pain killers have the counter effect of fucking you up

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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
warehouse wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
fuck schilling, like he never touched the juice

plus he used performance enhancing drugs to beat the yanks in 04, so should he have to give that ring back

:lol: if he used drugs to beat the yanks im pretty sure we can call it even


he did,i bet he shot up enough milligrams of painkillers that game to fuck up a chinese army

but at least pain killers have the counter effect of fucking you up


still, i know wayyy more people whos lives were fucked up from pain killers than steroids

and the league announced he was shootin them up during the game and it was no big deal..that was fuckin bullshit

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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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Curt Schilling hasn't been hit by nearly enough trucks, I think.

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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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i got bugs wrote:
cutuphalfdead wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
warehouse wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
fuck schilling, like he never touched the juice

plus he used performance enhancing drugs to beat the yanks in 04, so should he have to give that ring back

:lol: if he used drugs to beat the yanks im pretty sure we can call it even


he did,i bet he shot up enough milligrams of painkillers that game to fuck up a chinese army

but at least pain killers have the counter effect of fucking you up


still, i know wayyy more people whos lives were fucked up from pain killers than steroids

and the league announced he was shootin them up during the game and it was no big deal..that was fuckin bullshit

Did a doctor prescribe them? With the situation with his ankle I would bet any doctor would have given that guy painkillers.

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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
warehouse wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
fuck schilling, like he never touched the juice

plus he used performance enhancing drugs to beat the yanks in 04, so should he have to give that ring back

:lol: if he used drugs to beat the yanks im pretty sure we can call it even


he did,i bet he shot up enough milligrams of painkillers that game to fuck up a chinese army

but at least pain killers have the counter effect of fucking you up


yeah that's what I don't get about Favre too. I've been heavy on opiates before and they're dead opposite of "performance enhancing." It would be like taking Ambien for narcolepsy.

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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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Curt Schilling hasn't been hit by nearly enough trucks, I think.


Agreed.

I actually believe Clemens.

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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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J38ryan wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
Curt Schilling hasn't been hit by nearly enough trucks, I think.


Agreed.

I actually believe Clemens.

Now, let's not go crazy. Clemens is a roider. But at least he knows how to STFU when appropriate.

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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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So, I guess I'm the only one around here who thinks Schilling is right 90% of the time? Sure, he comes across as a bit of an ass sometimes, but he's still largely correct.


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I Got Poop wrote:
innocent till proven guilty. its not up to clemens to prove his innocence, clear his name. put aside your hate (for once) for clemens and/or schilling, that is how it works in this country.

it's so cute when people confuse the court of public opinion with a court of law

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I Got Poop wrote:
innocent till proven guilty. its not up to clemens to prove his innocence, clear his name. put aside your hate (for once) for clemens and/or schilling, that is how it works in this country.

it's so cute when people confuse the court of public opinion with a court of law


it's actually more annoying that cute

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Curt Schilling hasn't been hit by nearly enough trucks, I think.


Agreed.

I actually believe Clemens.

Now, let's not go crazy. Clemens is a roider. But at least he knows how to STFU when appropriate.



We shall see. Toronto's Trainer during the Clemens years came out yesterday and said that He never saw Clemens take anything and doesnn't believe Clemens every took anything.

Even Jose Canseco, who seems hell bent on burying anyone he even suspected of taking Steroids, said Clemens never took them. And other than him naming Pudge and A-Rod earlier, Conseco has been Dead-On about almost everyone else.

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J38ryan wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
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Curt Schilling hasn't been hit by nearly enough trucks, I think.


Agreed.

I actually believe Clemens.

Now, let's not go crazy. Clemens is a roider. But at least he knows how to STFU when appropriate.



We shall see. Toronto's Trainer during the Clemens years came out yesterday and said that He never saw Clemens take anything and doesnn't believe Clemens every took anything.

Even Jose Canseco, who seems hell bent on burying anyone he even suspected of taking Steroids, said Clemens never took them. And other than him naming Pudge and A-Rod earlier, Conseco has been Dead-On about almost everyone else.


You don't need a physiologist expert to convince you that you don't gain velocity on your fastball once you hit 40, just like you don't need one to convince you that your head shouldn't grow to the size of a large pumpkin (see, Barry Bonds) after you turn 35 without steriods or HGH.


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 Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
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ThumbingMyWayToNFLD wrote:
So, I guess I'm the only one around here who thinks Schilling is right 90% of the time? Sure, he comes across as a bit of an ass sometimes, but he's still largely correct.



i agree

if he sucked and didn't win World Series no one would care


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ThumbingMyWayToNFLD wrote:
So, I guess I'm the only one around here who thinks Schilling is right 90% of the time? Sure, he comes across as a bit of an ass sometimes, but he's still largely correct.

the problem is that he wasn't so talkative in front of congress a few years back...when he said steroids in MLB wasn't that a big a deal. Of course, those comments were in direct contrast to what he said a few years prior. In other words, he's full of shit.

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