Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 8:30 pm
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flavdave wrote:
Were the substances Clemens allegedly used banned by baseball in the time period he allegedly used them (1998-2001)?
use of any prescription medication without a valid prescription has been banned in MLB since the early 70's.
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Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:13 pm
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warehouse wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
fuck schilling, like he never touched the juice
plus he used performance enhancing drugs to beat the yanks in 04, so should he have to give that ring back
if he used drugs to beat the yanks im pretty sure we can call it even
well there's a whole school of thought that says that things like lasik surgery and pain killers aren't much different than PED's. Taking it a step further, some people feel that PED's allow you to cheat at "working out"...as opposed to cheating at baseball...and are not nearly as bad as corking a bat or scuffing a ball. I don't know that I buy into that, but it's certainly a different take on all of it.
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Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:41 am
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cutuphalfdead wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
warehouse wrote:
i got bugs wrote:
fuck schilling, like he never touched the juice
plus he used performance enhancing drugs to beat the yanks in 04, so should he have to give that ring back
if he used drugs to beat the yanks im pretty sure we can call it even
he did,i bet he shot up enough milligrams of painkillers that game to fuck up a chinese army
but at least pain killers have the counter effect of fucking you up
yeah that's what I don't get about Favre too. I've been heavy on opiates before and they're dead opposite of "performance enhancing." It would be like taking Ambien for narcolepsy.
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Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:50 am
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So, I guess I'm the only one around here who thinks Schilling is right 90% of the time? Sure, he comes across as a bit of an ass sometimes, but he's still largely correct.
Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 12:50 pm
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I Got Poop wrote:
innocent till proven guilty. its not up to clemens to prove his innocence, clear his name. put aside your hate (for once) for clemens and/or schilling, that is how it works in this country.
it's so cute when people confuse the court of public opinion with a court of law
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Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 1:02 pm
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knuckles of frisco wrote:
I Got Poop wrote:
innocent till proven guilty. its not up to clemens to prove his innocence, clear his name. put aside your hate (for once) for clemens and/or schilling, that is how it works in this country.
it's so cute when people confuse the court of public opinion with a court of law
Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:16 pm
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punkdavid wrote:
J38ryan wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
Curt Schilling hasn't been hit by nearly enough trucks, I think.
Agreed.
I actually believe Clemens.
Now, let's not go crazy. Clemens is a roider. But at least he knows how to STFU when appropriate.
We shall see. Toronto's Trainer during the Clemens years came out yesterday and said that He never saw Clemens take anything and doesnn't believe Clemens every took anything.
Even Jose Canseco, who seems hell bent on burying anyone he even suspected of taking Steroids, said Clemens never took them. And other than him naming Pudge and A-Rod earlier, Conseco has been Dead-On about almost everyone else.
Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 3:24 pm
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J38ryan wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
J38ryan wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
Curt Schilling hasn't been hit by nearly enough trucks, I think.
Agreed.
I actually believe Clemens.
Now, let's not go crazy. Clemens is a roider. But at least he knows how to STFU when appropriate.
We shall see. Toronto's Trainer during the Clemens years came out yesterday and said that He never saw Clemens take anything and doesnn't believe Clemens every took anything.
Even Jose Canseco, who seems hell bent on burying anyone he even suspected of taking Steroids, said Clemens never took them. And other than him naming Pudge and A-Rod earlier, Conseco has been Dead-On about almost everyone else.
You don't need a physiologist expert to convince you that you don't gain velocity on your fastball once you hit 40, just like you don't need one to convince you that your head shouldn't grow to the size of a large pumpkin (see, Barry Bonds) after you turn 35 without steriods or HGH.
Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:29 pm
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ThumbingMyWayToNFLD wrote:
So, I guess I'm the only one around here who thinks Schilling is right 90% of the time? Sure, he comes across as a bit of an ass sometimes, but he's still largely correct.
i agree
if he sucked and didn't win World Series no one would care
Post subject: Re: Schilling to Clemens:Give Back Cy
Posted: Fri Dec 21, 2007 4:40 pm
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ThumbingMyWayToNFLD wrote:
So, I guess I'm the only one around here who thinks Schilling is right 90% of the time? Sure, he comes across as a bit of an ass sometimes, but he's still largely correct.
the problem is that he wasn't so talkative in front of congress a few years back...when he said steroids in MLB wasn't that a big a deal. Of course, those comments were in direct contrast to what he said a few years prior. In other words, he's full of shit.
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