Post subject: Re: The Official 2008 New England Patriots Thread
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:43 pm
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EllisEamos wrote:
Self Polluted wrote:
I'm glad that's done. I think Brady would have, righfully so, been fuckin pissed if they let him go.
Last year on draft day I thought bringing Randy in was mistake. Turns out the bigger mistake would've been not signing him this year.
your first mistake was thinking that taking a flyer on arguably the best receiver in the league in exchange for a 4th rounder, was a mistake.
but i know what yur sayin.
Yeah, I agree it was low risk, but after those two years in Oakland, I thought he was a douchebag. He just needs the right situation, and Oakland ain't it. I think Mother Theresa would've been pissed in Oakland the past few years.
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Post subject: Re: The Official 2008 New England Patriots Thread
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 11:46 pm
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In smaller news....
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Patriots sign WR Aiken FOXBOROUGH, Massachusetts (Ticker)—With Randy Moss re-signing, the New England Patriots also added a receiver on a much smaller scale Monday.
The Patriots signed Sam Aiken to a two-year contract.
Financial terms of the deal were not released, but the Boston Globe said the package had a minimum value of $2 million should Aiken reach all incentives.
New England has plenty of familiarity with Aiken, having faced him as a member of AFC East rival Buffalo twice every season for the past five years.
“Competing against Sam many times over the years, we know firsthand what he brings to us,” Patriots coach Bill Belichick said. “We’re glad he is a Patriot.”
The 6-2, 215-pound Aiken has only 19 career receptions in five seasons with the Bills. Considered a strong performer on special teams, Aiken was a fourth-round pick of the Bills in 2003.
“Coach Belichick reached out at around 11 that morning, and that was a big deal to him,” Alvin Keels, Aiken’s agent, told the Globe. “That call on the first day made Sam feel like the Patriots really wanted him.”
The defending AFC champion Patriots brought in Aiken on the same day that they re-signed Moss to a deal reportedly worth $27 million over three years.
Post subject: Re: The Official 2008 New England Patriots Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:01 am
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Self Polluted wrote:
In smaller news....
Quote:
Patriots sign WR Aiken FOXBOROUGH, Massachusetts (Ticker)—With Randy Moss re-signing, the New England Patriots also added a receiver on a much smaller scale Monday.
The Patriots signed Sam Aiken to a two-year contract.
Financial terms of the deal were not released, but the Boston Globe said the package had a minimum value of $2 million should Aiken reach all incentives.
New England has plenty of familiarity with Aiken, having faced him as a member of AFC East rival Buffalo twice every season for the past five years.
“Competing against Sam many times over the years, we know firsthand what he brings to us,” Patriots coach Bill Belichick said. “We’re glad he is a Patriot.”
The 6-2, 215-pound Aiken has only 19 career receptions in five seasons with the Bills. Considered a strong performer on special teams, Aiken was a fourth-round pick of the Bills in 2003.
“Coach Belichick reached out at around 11 that morning, and that was a big deal to him,” Alvin Keels, Aiken’s agent, told the Globe. “That call on the first day made Sam feel like the Patriots really wanted him.”
The defending AFC champion Patriots brought in Aiken on the same day that they re-signed Moss to a deal reportedly worth $27 million over three years.
so what is it that he brings to the team? it says above that he only has 19 career recepions over 5 seasons. is he a really good gunner or something?
Post subject: Re: The Official 2008 New England Patriots Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:15 am
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Self Polluted wrote:
EllisEamos wrote:
so what is it that he brings to the team? it says above that he only has 19 career recepions over 5 seasons. is he a really good gunner or something?
I was hoping you would know. Maybe someone from Buffalo does?
wikipedia wrote:
Professional career
Buffalo Bills
Primarily a special teams player, Aiken made his mark covering kicks and punts on one of the leagues best special teams units. However, he has played a limited role on offense, and because he is in the last year of his contract it is rumored that he will be released for someone who can make a larger impact on offense. New England Patriots
On March 3, 2008, Aiken signed with the New England Patriots.
how do they determine "the leagues best special teams unit?"
Post subject: Re: The Official 2008 New England Patriots Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:39 am
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Green Habit wrote:
Self Polluted wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Self Polluted wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
So, the Pats re-sign Moss and lose nearly their whole starting secondary. I think I might take the over in every single Pats game in 2008.
Might not be a bad bet, but they only lost 1 starter from the secondary.
Wasn't Gay still their nickelback? You gotta have a good third guy against teams like the Colts and Bengals.
I thought Wilson was starting instead of Sanders, but obviously I was wrong.
Yeah Gay was in there plenty, but I think Merriweather can be better. Of course, thats just a thought.
They're moving Merriweather from safety to corner?
They're gonna use him somehow... he did a bunch of that during the season, mostly dime. If he beats out Sanders for free safety then no, but he'll be out there either way.
Post subject: Re: The Official 2008 New England Patriots Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:44 am
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Self Polluted wrote:
They're gonna use him somehow... he did a bunch of that during the season, mostly dime. If he beats out Sanders for free safety then no, but he'll be out there either way.
Fair enough. They could also do a "big nickel" package with three safeties if that is truly Meriweather's position.
Post subject: Re: The Official 2008 New England Patriots Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:44 am
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Self Polluted wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
So, the Pats re-sign Moss and lose nearly their whole starting secondary. I think I might take the over in every single Pats game in 2008.
Might not be a bad bet, but they only lost 1 starter from the secondary.
after Eugene Wilson and Chad Scott sign elsewhere, they will have lost their #1 corner (samuel), #3 corner (Scott), #4 corner (Gay), and #4 safety/#5 corner (Wilson).
like i posted earlier, they still have these guys in the secondary:
CB: Ellis Hobbs (#2 last season/Return Man) Brandon Meriweather (#3 or #4 toward end of season) Mike Richardson (rookie who spent entire season on IR) Antwan Spann (#6 corner/Special Teamer)
Post subject: Re: The Official 2008 New England Patriots Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:48 am
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Green Habit wrote:
Self Polluted wrote:
They're gonna use him somehow... he did a bunch of that during the season, mostly dime. If he beats out Sanders for free safety then no, but he'll be out there either way.
Fair enough. They could also do a "big nickel" package with three safeties if that is truly Meriweather's position.
i'm pretty sure they did some of that last season. Meriweather's natural and best position is at safety, but sanders has emerged as very qualified for the job next to harrison. Wilson was slowed from injuries two years ago and never was a true starter this past season. Its being speculated that the pats could move meriweather to corner fulltime next season, but i think they want him to ultimately replace rodney at SS at some point.
Post subject: Re: The Official New England Patriots Thread
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:08 am
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patriots.com depth chart wrote:
Offense Wide Receiver 83 Wes Welker 17 Chad Jackson Left Tackle 72 Matt Light 65 Wesley Britt Left Guard 70 Logan Mankins 71 Russ Hochstein 74 Billy Yates Center 67 Dan Koppen 71 Russ Hochstein Right Guard 61 Stephen Neal 71 Russ Hochstein 74 Billy Yates Right Tackle 77 Nick Kaczur 68 Ryan O'Callaghan Tight End 84 Benjamin Watson 86 David Thomas 82 Stephen Spach Wide Receiver 81 Randy Moss 15 Kelley Washington 19 C.J. Jones Quarterback 12 Tom Brady 16 Matt Cassel 7 Matt Gutierrez Running Back 39 Laurence Maroney 34 Sammy Morris 33 Kevin Faulk Fullback 44 Heath Evans 38 Kyle Eckel Defense Left Defensive End 94 Ty Warren 90 Le Kevin Smith 92 Santonio Thomas Nose Tackle 75 Vince Wilfork 95 Rashad Moore Right Defensive End 93 Richard Seymour 97 Jarvis Green Outside Linebacker 50 Mike Vrabel 58 Pierre Woods Inside Linebacker 52 Eric Alexander Inside Linebacker 54 Tedy Bruschi 53 Larry Izzo Outside Linebacker 96 Adalius Thomas T.J. Slaughter Left Cornerback 28 Antwain Spann 35 Mike Richardson 25 Tim Mixon Right Cornerback 27 Ellis Hobbs 31 Brandon Meriweather Strong Safety 37 Rodney Harrison 23 Willie Andrews 41 Ray Ventrone Free Safety 36 James Sanders 31 Brandon Meriweather
randy isn't listed on the website, so i put him in. I find it interesting that T.J. isn't listed at Inside.
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