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 Post subject: Curt Schilling...Hall of Famer?
PostPosted: Tue Oct 24, 2006 5:13 am 
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jimmac24 wrote:
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...Curt Schilling ain't a Hall of Famer either.


whoa there, schilling isn't a hall of famer? maybe not in the NFL.


I say no.
207 wins, 3110 innings, 3015 Ks, 3.44 ERA.
Zero Cy Young awards
1 LCS MVP
1 WS MVP

Most similar pitchers over the course of a career:
1. Kevin Brown (915)
2. Bob Welch (901)
3. Orel Hershiser (896)
4. Dazzy Vance (894) *
5. Mike Mussina (892)
6. David Cone (890)
7. Milt Pappas (883)
8. Lew Burdette (876)
9. Don Drysdale (875) *
10. John Smoltz (875)

*Indicates Hall of Fame Member.

He's very, very good...but wasn't for long enough. I'd argue that he actually only had 4-6 great seasons and then just a lot of strikeouts. I mean, is Kevin Brown a HOFer? No way.
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he wore the crimson pinstripes, he's in
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he's borderline, he has two WS rings right?

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No. He'll be remembered anyway.
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pearljamfan80 wrote:
he's borderline, he has two WS rings right?


Yep. Boston and Arizona.
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Zero chance at Hall of Fame. His win total is too low. He'll get more votes than he should, though, because his whole career he's been good to the press. That counts for some voters.

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so the bloody sock gets in but schilling doesn't?
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2001 and 2004 will go a long way, but he probably won't get in

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Spike wrote:
so the bloody sock gets in but schilling doesn't?


the bloody sock will get him in eventually

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Dont Kenny Rogers and Schilling have some similar numbers outside of the K's?


(im too lazy to look it up, and i think i remember it being brought up when schilling pitched against the tigers this year)
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based on his regular season stats....NO WAY. But if the voters want to put him in because of what he's done in the playoffs - I wouldn't have a problem with it.

If he gets in, Mussina should get in. They have similar numbers but Moose was in the tougher league and more durable.

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Nope. If he played for decent teams in Philly he might have had a good chance.
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isnt the DAMN bloody sock enough :roll:

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Where's The Old Board? wrote:
2001 and 2004 will go a long way, but he probably won't get in


He also was dominant in the playoffs in 1993

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Well, if he doesn't get in, we know it won't be because of his lack of politiking or lobbying efforts. One of the reasons I like when the Red Sox lose is that Schilling finally has a reason to keep his big trap shut.
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If Jack Morris is not in by the time that Schilling's eligible, there's absolutely ZERO justification for letting Schilling in.

That is all.
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Chris_H_2 wrote:
If Jack Morris is not in by the time that Schilling's eligible, there's absolutely ZERO justification for letting Schilling in.

That is all.


i agree with that 100%

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Nope. Great clutch picther, but is he better than John Smoltz during his career?

I think Smoltz will get in.

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Chris_H_2 wrote:
If Jack Morris is not in by the time that Schilling's eligible, there's absolutely ZERO justification for letting Schilling in.

That is all.


yup, Jack should get in.

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