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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
PostPosted: Fri Dec 03, 2010 4:33 pm 
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Fuck this game! :x


Meh. Of course the guy was going to be fired up. And of course the Cavs were going to lose. Miami beats bad teams, that's what they do. Especially a team who can't hold on to the ball and plays terrible transition D like this one does.

And yeah the guy's still a dick.


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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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Joesanity wrote:
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Fuck this game! :x


Meh. Of course the guy was going to be fired up. And of course the Cavs were going to lose. Miami beats bad teams, that's what they do. Especially a team who can't hold on to the ball and plays terrible transition D like this one does.

And yeah the guy's still a dick.


I was ready for a loss. I wasn't ready for that pathetic showing.

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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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B wrote:
Veddar10 wrote:
Joesanity wrote:
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Fuck this game! :x


Meh. Of course the guy was going to be fired up. And of course the Cavs were going to lose. Miami beats bad teams, that's what they do. Especially a team who can't hold on to the ball and plays terrible transition D like this one does.

And yeah the guy's still a dick.


I was ready for a loss. I wasn't ready for that pathetic showing.


jamison came out will a little fire early on but even that faded fast. They looked like such pussys.


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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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Let the debate start: the most overrated basketball player of all-time?

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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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he's no jason terry.


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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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Jason Terry is clearly a superior player to LeBron.

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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Jason Terry is clearly a superior player to LeBron.


LeBron didn't even have enough confidence in what he was doing to get the Larry O'Brien trophy tattooed on his arm.

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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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corduroy_blazer wrote:
Let the debate start: the most overrated basketball player of all-time?



stat wise no. harold minor comes to mind, as do the obannons. while he did disappear in the finals this year, regular season hes still a monster

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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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$úñ_DëV|L wrote:
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Jason Terry is clearly a superior player to LeBron.


LeBron didn't even have enough confidence in what he was doing to get the Larry O'Brien trophy tattooed on his arm.


Delonte West has a tattoo of LeBron's mom on his pen*s. True Story.

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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:01 pm 
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It had to cross his mind. If it didn’t hit him last night, it surely will today as he reads all the articles about Dirk Nowitzki’s persistence and what it meant for him to finally win an NBA Championship, the franchise’s first, in the city where he was drafted only city he has ever played in.

It’s simply hard to believe that in his most austere moment of isolated clarity, buried deep in his insecurities somewhere, that LeBron James didn’t allow his mind to drift even briefly to thoughts of what might have been.

It’s often easy to project results as a referendum on the choices people make. It’s why it’s such an easy parallel to draw between what Dirk Nowitzki accomplished Sunday night to what LeBron James had a chance to do with Cleveland. For all the articles written this season about how LeBron did what he had to do in order to win an NBA title, Nowitzki proved that sometimes, even if it is the exception and not the rule, loyalty and staying the course provides its just reward.

Indeed, Kevin Garnett told LeBron after the Boston Celtics eliminated the Cleveland Cavaliers that he wishes he would have left Minnesota sooner. In a recent podcast with Bill Simmons and Chuck Klosterman, former NBA great Charles Barkley told the hosts that he really wishes he would have left the Philadelphia 76ers sooner. The ghosts of NBA history might be telling us that loyalty is the hindrance of ultimate greatness.

So it was that LeBron James had a decision to make last summer. Everyone forgets that Dirk Nowitzki had a decision to make, too. While the Cleveland Cavaliers were in the midst of enjoying back to back 60+ win seasons and being considered in the discussion for favorites to win the NBA Championship, the Mavericks were coming off a run of disappointing playoff performances, including a first round exit in 3 of the last 4 seasons.

Both Dallas and Cleveland had good depth, but lacked a true #2 star. The Mavericks 2nd best player was believed to be Jason Terry, but he carried an efficiency rating lower than Shaquille O’Neal, Antawn Jamison, and Mo Williams for Cleveland. There’s a lot of revisionist history that now suggests otherwise, but the Cavalier team LeBron left was extremely deep, was versatile, had the ability to mix and match size, athleticism, and speed to exploit different matchups, and in general was built to perfectly compliment the playing style that LeBron James preferred. It was his team, the team he had asked for.

Yet there were certainly questions. The Cavaliers were an older team, had limited salary cap options moving forward, and there was no certainty they could make big moves in the future. In essence, LeBron James had a very similar future outlook with Cleveland to what Dirk had in Dallas. So it was fitting that Sunday night LeBron’s easy way out stared down Dirk’s decision to dig in.

When Nowitzki made his decision to stay in Dallas, ESPN’s Marc Stein wrote the following:

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With no guarantee the capped-out Mavericks can land the elite sidekick he seeks to keep Dallas relevant in the Western Conference, Nowitzki agreed Saturday night to give a hometown discount to the only team he’s ever known, reaching terms with owner Mark Cuban on what sources close to the talks say is a four-year deal worth $80 million.

That’s $16 million less than the $96 million maximum Nowitzki was eligible to receive and likely would have commanded had he been serious about shopping himself on the open market as an unrestricted free agent for the first time, given Nowitzki’s stature in the league as a former MVP and the fact that his game is aging well at 32.

Nowitzki essentially ignored exploratory feelers from New Jersey and New York and stuck to his oft-cited desire to keep chasing his championship dream in Dallas, agreeing to the new pact — which includes a no-trade clause — after a series of wrap-up meetings that consumed much of Saturday and concluded at Cuban’s house.


There’s no question it was a gamble. It was the difficult decision to make. Many others had made the same decision only to never realize their Championship dreams. Perhaps Karl Malone wishes had decided to leave sooner. Perhaps Patrick Ewing wishes his loyalty to New York had paid off like this. There were no guarantees this would happen for Dirk and there are no guarantees that had LeBron stayed in Cleveland, he too would have eventually been rewarded for it.

But it’s hard to believe LeBron didn’t think about it last night. Of course he’ll never admit it. How could he? After all, it’s not like this was his last chance to win a Championship. He’ll probably win at least one eventually, probably more. But he won’t get the instant gratification that he was seeking by joining Dwyane Wade in Miami. No, if LeBron wants it, he’s going to have to work for it and his team is going to have to grow into it. The irony being, this was exactly the scenario he was running from in Cleveland.

It’s still going to be easier for him in Miami than it would have been in Cleveland. He still has Dwyane Wade and he still has Chris Bosh, who proved far more reliable in the NBA Finals than most thought he would be. The Miami Heat will still be a team that will be able to woo Ring Chasers at a discounted rate, guys like Mike Bibby, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Juwan Howard, Erick Dampier, and Jerry Stackhouse. The weather and media spotlight will be extra draws for players seeking such amenities on a Championship contending team. Miami will probably eventually win another NBA Title.

Yet for any potential ease in Miami, LeBron James will never have what Dirk Nowitzki now has. No matter how his career plays out in Miami, the sunny weather fans in Miami will never care about him like Dallas fans care about Dirk. He will never reward the long time suffering and loyalty of a passionate fan base the way Dirk did. He will never know the satisfying relief of working hard and ultimately achieving his goal in the face of overwhelming odds the way Dirk does.

After the game, LeBron James told fans who rooted against him to get back to the real world, informing them that they were going to have to wake up today to their same old problems. Perhaps he should consider his own advice. Because today, LeBron James wakes up to the same old problems. He still hasn’t figured out how to carry his team to the Championship. He’s still searching for the validation of his own hyped career that he so desperately craves. He still has to deal with his tattered image across the nation outside of his beloved South Beach.

Sure, today average people in Cleveland and across Ohio will wake up, they’ll go to work, they’ll joke with friends and co-workers, and sure, they’ll have their problems too. But in Cleveland, today they’ll be laughing. And why shouldn’t they? LeBron made his decision to leave, to chase the easier path. Cleveland made their decision, too. They’ve decided to enjoy today, regardless of what the future holds for both LeBron James and the Cleveland Cavaliers. Today, LeBron James is like the rest of us. We all have our problems.


http://www.waitingfornextyear.com/2011/ ... decisions/

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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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i think its ridiculous that people make such a big deal out of him leaving. he isn't even from Cleveland, and even if he was, who would want to live there? sure, the way he did it was kinda stupid, but people act like he some kind of terrorist.

criticize him for his in game dissappearances and some of his arrogant comments, but Cleveland needs to get the fuck over it.

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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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It's not like he grew up in Albuquerque. Akron's 30 minutes away. Fuck, I did all my elementary school field trips and college summer drinking in Cleveland. If Akron isn't part of the Cavs nation then nowhere is.

And sure, there are over the top nuts out there, but after The Decision, I think a little revelry in the Mavs' championship is appropriate.

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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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$úñ_DëV|L wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Jason Terry is clearly a superior player to LeBron.


LeBron didn't even have enough confidence in what he was doing to get the Larry O'Brien trophy tattooed on his arm.


If LeBron had done that, people would be crucifying him more than they already are....

But Jason Terry...meh...who gives a shit???


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ScottZeagle wrote:
$úñ_DëV|L wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Jason Terry is clearly a superior player to LeBron.


LeBron didn't even have enough confidence in what he was doing to get the Larry O'Brien trophy tattooed on his arm.


If LeBron had done that, people would be crucifying him more than they already are....

But Jason Terry...meh...who gives a shit???

He outplayed LeBron -- maybe you should.

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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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ScottZeagle wrote:
$úñ_DëV|L wrote:
lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Jason Terry is clearly a superior player to LeBron.


LeBron didn't even have enough confidence in what he was doing to get the Larry O'Brien trophy tattooed on his arm.


If LeBron had done that, people would be crucifying him more than they already are....

But Jason Terry...meh...who gives a shit???


There's a difference between that and implying that you are Jesus.

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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
Jason Terry is clearly a superior player to LeBron.


LeBron didn't even have enough confidence in what he was doing to get the Larry O'Brien trophy tattooed on his arm.


If LeBron had done that, people would be crucifying him more than they already are....

But Jason Terry...meh...who gives a shit???


There's a difference between that and implying that you are Jesus.

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Shouldn't guys with the "lifestyle" of Lebron be able to afford better ink than that?

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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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that's a bit harsh.


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He's a pretty bad basketball player, Spike. Maybe he'll get that elusive title in the WNBA.

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 Post subject: Re: Lebron James
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that'll be up to the almighty, friend.


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