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PostPosted: Tue Jan 25, 2011 4:04 pm 
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My favorite SportsNation poll results came from the question, "Does Boise State belong in a BCS bowl?" 49 out of 50 states overwhelmingly voted yes. The one glaring exception?

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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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I don't really have any ill will toward Ben or Vick, but that is still a terribly sad poll.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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BTW, i'm hearing Phillip Rivers' comparison. Completely different scenarios. Rivers practiced during the week with an MCL tear and then left the game because of it. It wasn't an in-game injury. Both guys played with it and eventually came out of the game.


Rivers played the whole game against New England

LT and cutler should be teammates.


Tough to play a game when your RB and QB won't step on the field in the playoffs.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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Coach wrote:
EllisEamos wrote:
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BTW, i'm hearing Phillip Rivers' comparison. Completely different scenarios. Rivers practiced during the week with an MCL tear and then left the game because of it. It wasn't an in-game injury. Both guys played with it and eventually came out of the game.


Rivers played the whole game against New England

LT and cutler should be teammates.


Tough to play a game when your RB and QB won't step on the field in the playoffs.

that's why it would be funny.

LT: hey man, you gotta step up, i can't go today.
JC: no way, i'm not going out there, you go!
LT: i took myself out first!
JC: nu-ah!
LT: ya-huh!
JC: nu-ah!
LT: ya-huh!
JC: Martzy! Martzy! LT is trying to make me play!
MM: you two shut up, Todd Collins has gotcha covered, oh shi-

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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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EllisEamos wrote:
that's why it would be funny.

LT: hey man, you gotta step up, i can't go today.
JC: no way, i'm not going out there, you go!
LT: i took myself out first!
JC: nu-ah!
LT: ya-huh!
JC: nu-ah!
LT: ya-huh!
JC: Martzy! Martzy! LT is trying to make me play!
MM: you two shut up, Todd Collins has gotcha covered, oh shi-


Well that's surely one way to kill a thread that shouldn't have started in the first place.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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mike vick is a model citizen these days, you guys are crazy. id also let him dogsit for one of my friends any day.

if the bears had vick insteady of cutler they'd be super bowl favorites. just sayin.

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i see nipples.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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For thodoks, Kris:

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1. The Price for Cutler: Now that the Broncos have waived Kyle Orton, who was a central piece in a blockbuster trade with the Bears, the exact price that Chicago surrendered for former Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler can be accurately weighed. It was, in two words -- a bargain.

For Cutler, the Broncos got:

• A 2009 first-round pick that Denver used on defensive end Robert Ayers.

• A 2010 first-round pick Denver traded to Seattle for a 2009 second-round pick used on cornerback Alphonso Smith.

• A 2009 third-round pick Denver traded with its own third-round pick to Pittsburgh for a second-round pick used on tight end Richard Quinn and a fourth-round pick used on guard Seth Olsen.

Now, Orton is in Kansas City, and Ayers is the only player left on Denver's roster that the team got in return for Cutler. That's it. Every other player brought to the Broncos from that trade has been released.

And if that weren't bad enough, the 2009 third-round pick from Chicago that Denver wound up trading to Pittsburgh was used on none other than wide receiver Mike Wallace.

So Chicago got Cutler, Pittsburgh got Wallace, and Denver got … Ayers. Literally.

Moral of the story: In the offseason after Cutler was selected to his first Pro Bowl, no price was too high to pay for a proven Pro Bowl quarterback.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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That's really just contingent on the Broncos making adequate draft selections. If they picked three Pro Bowlers or solid starters you could say, "Look at the steal the Broncos got for Cutler!"

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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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That's really just contingent on the Broncos making adequate draft selections. If they picked three Pro Bowlers or solid starters you could say, "Look at the steal the Broncos got for Cutler!"

Troof.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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4/5 wrote:
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That's really just contingent on the Broncos making adequate draft selections. If they picked three Pro Bowlers or solid starters you could say, "Look at the steal the Broncos got for Cutler!"

Troof.

which is the nice way of saying the article is awful and completely misses the point: there is a price too high to pay for a QB, the broncos just suck.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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Doesn't the Mike Wallace point only illustrate that Chicago had to give up the good receiver they need to get Cutler who needs a receiver?

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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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lennytheweedwhacker wrote:
That's really just contingent on the Broncos making adequate draft selections. If they picked three Pro Bowlers or solid starters you could say, "Look at the steal the Broncos got for Cutler!"


But According to Thodoks, picks (esp 1st round picks) are where it's at... even though there is a very high failure rate...


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Mickey wrote:
Doesn't the Mike Wallace point only illustrate that Chicago had to give up the good receiver they need to get Cutler who needs a receiver?


They've never had a good WR... Besides, QB is much more important than WR. Ask the Lions ;)


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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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homersheineken wrote:
But According to Thodoks, picks (esp 1st round picks) are where it's at... even though there is a very high failure rate...

Just because Chicago's trading partner blew it doesn't mean draft picks aren't still the best way to build a team.

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 Post subject: Re: The Jay Cutler Thread
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4/5 wrote:
For thodoks, Kris:

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1. The Price for Cutler: Now that the Broncos have waived Kyle Orton, who was a central piece in a blockbuster trade with the Bears, the exact price that Chicago surrendered for former Broncos quarterback Jay Cutler can be accurately weighed. It was, in two words -- a bargain.

For Cutler, the Broncos got:

• A 2009 first-round pick that Denver used on defensive end Robert Ayers.

• A 2010 first-round pick Denver traded to Seattle for a 2009 second-round pick used on cornerback Alphonso Smith.

• A 2009 third-round pick Denver traded with its own third-round pick to Pittsburgh for a second-round pick used on tight end Richard Quinn and a fourth-round pick used on guard Seth Olsen.

Now, Orton is in Kansas City, and Ayers is the only player left on Denver's roster that the team got in return for Cutler. That's it. Every other player brought to the Broncos from that trade has been released.

And if that weren't bad enough, the 2009 third-round pick from Chicago that Denver wound up trading to Pittsburgh was used on none other than wide receiver Mike Wallace.

So Chicago got Cutler, Pittsburgh got Wallace, and Denver got … Ayers. Literally.

Moral of the story: In the offseason after Cutler was selected to his first Pro Bowl, no price was too high to pay for a proven Pro Bowl quarterback.
This is wrong. The Alphonso Smith pick was their own. Reference the masterful Kyle Orton Flow Chart:

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/im ... 7c0861.jpg

The Cutler trade as of now is really Cutler & Johnny Knox (the Bears did get a decent receiver, Mickey) for Ayers, Demaryius Thomas, Eric Decker, and part of Tim Tebow.


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and part of Tim Tebow.

throwing part, or running part?


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and part of Tim Tebow.

throwing part, or running part?

There's a throwing part?


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