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some people have been riding his nuts and derailing my college basketball thread :evil:

so here is your own little area to talk about larry legend...

just kidding, i actually wanted to pose this question... would larry bird be considered larry legend if he was black?... i know he was a hell of a talent, but i think he is a bit over-hyped due to his whiteness... if he was a black player that led boston to those titles, would he be held in the same light?

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Yes. Larry is timeless. He was the best shooter ever then, whether he was black or white. I'm glad he was white just so we got to see his blonde stash... that thing was awesome.


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pearljamminagain wrote:
some people have been riding his nuts and derailing my college basketball thread :evil:

so here is your own little area to talk about larry legend...

just kidding, i actually wanted to pose this question... would larry bird be considered larry legend if he was black?... i know he was a hell of a talent, but i think he is a bit over-hyped due to his whiteness... if he was a black player that led boston to those titles, would he be held in the same light?

discuss


In terms of talent, he was was one of the all-time greats and unbelievably clutch. Awesome shooter, great passer......just ok on defense IMO.

was he overhyped? Maybe a little. Perhaps his off-court life would have been covered a bit differently if he were black......

But Larry is a legit top 10 all time NBA player. Probably in the top 5 if you're talking non-centers.

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tsunami wrote:
Jordan
Kareem
Bird
Russell


Jordan
Wilt/Russel/Kareem/Shaq/Duncan
Magic
Oscar
Bird

(you can put the centers in any order you want)

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No love for Black Larry?? are you playing the part of Isaiah Thomas or Dennis Rodman?

Larry is God. End of story.

Tsu - were back to being enemies. Kareen is Krap ;)


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Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
tsunami wrote:
Jordan
Kareem
Bird
Russell


Jordan
Wilt/Russel/Kareem/Shaq/Duncan
Magic
Oscar
Bird

(you can put the centers in any order you want)


you can probably go ahead and put Lebron on this list today... i cant even begin to imagine how good he is going to be in a couple years... there is no ceiling for this guy


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I HATED the Celtics growing up when Larry was playing and couldn't stand Bird. I don't think he was ever overrated or overhyped. There may have been a little extra buzz about him because he was white but you can't argue the facts.

He was the best player on one of the best teams of all time.
He is one of the clutchest players ever.
He may be the best shooter ever.
IMO he was one of the 3 best passers ever (Magic and Stockton).
Averaged 24-10-6 on 50% shooting for his career playing 38 minutes per game.

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No love for Black Larry?? are you playing the part of Isaiah Thomas or Dennis Rodman?

Larry is God. End of story.

Tsu - were back to being enemies. Kareen is Krap ;)


i'll play the part of dennis rodman.. he's gotten to have sex with madonna and carmen electra... of course, he probably had some buttsex with men along the way, so scratch that, i'll go ahead and be mr. thomas


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pearljamminagain wrote:
Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
tsunami wrote:
Jordan
Kareem
Bird
Russell


Jordan
Wilt/Russel/Kareem/Shaq/Duncan
Magic
Oscar
Bird

(you can put the centers in any order you want)


you can probably go ahead and put Lebron on this list today... i cant even begin to imagine how good he is going to be in a couple years... there is no ceiling for this guy


Lebron will be on just about everyone's list in a few years.

first player to ever make me consider I might see someone better than Jordan in my lifetime.

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pearljamminagain wrote:
bostonlou wrote:
No love for Black Larry?? are you playing the part of Isaiah Thomas or Dennis Rodman?

Larry is God. End of story.

Tsu - were back to being enemies. Kareen is Krap ;)


i'll play the part of dennis rodman.. he's gotten to have sex with madonna and carmen electra... of course, he probably had some buttsex with men along the way, so scratch that, i'll go ahead and be mr. thomas



i'd rather get blasted in the keister then have to be seen as a complete idiot... how can anyone have faith in Isiah Thomas? It's comical how much he's fcked up in his life... (outside of playing)


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bostonlou wrote:
pearljamminagain wrote:
bostonlou wrote:
No love for Black Larry?? are you playing the part of Isaiah Thomas or Dennis Rodman?

Larry is God. End of story.

Tsu - were back to being enemies. Kareen is Krap ;)


i'll play the part of dennis rodman.. he's gotten to have sex with madonna and carmen electra... of course, he probably had some buttsex with men along the way, so scratch that, i'll go ahead and be mr. thomas



i'd rather get blasted in the keister then have to be seen as a complete idiot... how can anyone have faith in Isiah Thomas? It's comical how much he's fcked up in his life... (outside of playing)


go in the kitchen

grab a cucumber

shove it up your ass







still want to be dennis?


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Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
pearljamminagain wrote:
Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
tsunami wrote:
Jordan
Kareem
Bird
Russell


Jordan
Wilt/Russel/Kareem/Shaq/Duncan
Magic
Oscar
Bird

(you can put the centers in any order you want)


you can probably go ahead and put Lebron on this list today... i cant even begin to imagine how good he is going to be in a couple years... there is no ceiling for this guy


Lebron will be on just about everyone's list in a few years.

first player to ever make me consider I might see someone better than Jordan in my lifetime.


made me consider the same thing


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pearljamminagain wrote:
bostonlou wrote:
pearljamminagain wrote:
bostonlou wrote:
No love for Black Larry?? are you playing the part of Isaiah Thomas or Dennis Rodman?

Larry is God. End of story.

Tsu - were back to being enemies. Kareen is Krap ;)


i'll play the part of dennis rodman.. he's gotten to have sex with madonna and carmen electra... of course, he probably had some buttsex with men along the way, so scratch that, i'll go ahead and be mr. thomas



i'd rather get blasted in the keister then have to be seen as a complete idiot... how can anyone have faith in Isiah Thomas? It's comical how much he's fcked up in his life... (outside of playing)


go in the kitchen

grab a cucumber

shove it up your ass







still want to be dennis?



i'm comfortable enough in my sexuality to have no problem with anal play... with a woman of course

ever try a popsicle?? they're fun


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bostonlou wrote:
pearljamminagain wrote:
bostonlou wrote:
pearljamminagain wrote:
bostonlou wrote:
No love for Black Larry?? are you playing the part of Isaiah Thomas or Dennis Rodman?

Larry is God. End of story.

Tsu - were back to being enemies. Kareen is Krap ;)


i'll play the part of dennis rodman.. he's gotten to have sex with madonna and carmen electra... of course, he probably had some buttsex with men along the way, so scratch that, i'll go ahead and be mr. thomas



i'd rather get blasted in the keister then have to be seen as a complete idiot... how can anyone have faith in Isiah Thomas? It's comical how much he's fcked up in his life... (outside of playing)


go in the kitchen

grab a cucumber

shove it up your ass







still want to be dennis?



i'm comfortable enough in my sexuality to have no problem with anal play... with a woman of course

ever try a popsicle?? they're fun


note to self: have fiance buy Bomb Pops


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He'd still be an icon and beloved in Boston (and everywhere people appreciate great basketball), but it'd be crazy to say the sight of a white guy who could outplay 99% of his contemporaries didn't help the legend a bit.


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Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
pearljamminagain wrote:
Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
tsunami wrote:
Jordan
Kareem
Bird
Russell


Jordan
Wilt/Russel/Kareem/Shaq/Duncan
Magic
Oscar
Bird

(you can put the centers in any order you want)


you can probably go ahead and put Lebron on this list today... i cant even begin to imagine how good he is going to be in a couple years... there is no ceiling for this guy


Lebron will be on just about everyone's list in a few years.

first player to ever make me consider I might see someone better than Jordan in my lifetime.


James is going to be a stud, but I will hold off judgement until I see if he can win a title. Jordan made the people around him better. His Bulls dominated with no one. Look what happened to Pippen when Jordan was gone. Jordan made Pippen a star. Can James do the same? If yes he is on the same field as Jordan. If no then he is just a great player, but not Jordan.

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LaBron James only becomes on the same level as Jordan once he wins SIX titles.

Why should this be different than the Tom Brady comparisons to Aikman (3 titles) and Montana (4)?

Brady is as great as Aikman for sure, and if he wins another he is in the same conversation as Montana.

If Brady does not win another, he is still great, but not Montana-great.

If James can win that many rings, he is on the same plain.

If not, he is great, but not Jordan-great.

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