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there is no way the pats can cover nicks-cruz-manningham

the giants dl will may not shut down brady but theyll slow him down

the pats hardly beat anyone good all season

giants are fire right now

actually i think this giants team is better than the one that beat brady before, and that pats team is nowhere as good as the 18-0 team

i like the gints over the pats

only thing brady has going for him is the revenge factor from last time

thodoks wrote:

4/5 wrote:

thodoks wrote:

excuses are mounting

Your team is living proof it's better to be lucky than good.

Give me a break. Teams don't make five out of the last ten Super Bowls, six out of the last ten AFC championships, and eight out of the last ten years' playoffs (and missing one year despite having an 11-5 record without Tom Brady) by being lucky. At least, not exclusively.

Of course they've had some balls bounce their way. But no team wins a championship without getting a few breaks. David Tyree caught a ball with his fucking helmet for Christ's sake.

Spoiler: show: That might have been your most successful troll yet.

No troll, though it was certainly successful. Lucky and good aren't mutually exclusive, and this incarnation of the Patriots is more the former than the latter. Obviously they're good. They were 13-3 and played well enough to beat a better team last weekend. So there's no denying that. I just don't think they are Super Bowl good. That's where luck has come in. (I'm not trying to begrudge "luck here either) I think everything from their schedule to other playoff results and the Championship game itself has broken in their favor. Hey, it happens. And they've taken advantage of it. I'd give my left nut for the Dolphins to be either that lucky or good once in my lifetime.

I'd say they're a good team that's here more out of luck than some mystical "resilient" quality that this 2011 version of the Pats supposedly has that the 2007 version was lacking. Basically, I hated that article you posted a few days ago. The Giants aren't here because they know how to close or are resilient or wanted it more or somesuchnonsense like that. They're here because the 49ers backup punt return fumbled away the game. Just like this Patriots team doesn't know how to win and all that BS compared to an '07 team who supposedly didn't win because they hadn't been pushed during the regular season. I hate stupid sports cliched platitudes like that. That Pats team lost because their o-line wasn't as perfect/healthy as it had been all year long and hadn't faced a pass rush like that all year. (Yes, I know they played the Giants one month before).

we are very lucky to be going to the superbowl.

BuffaLOL moment there.

Heard the new Bears GM conduct his first press conference today on the Chicago spots talk station......this guy is going to be terrible. He basically kept on repeating 'we are going to get players who are playmakers' over and over again.

verb_to_trust wrote:

Translation, we are going to trade two first round picks a 2nd; 4th and 5th for a fucking wide receiver.

Electromatic wrote:

verb_to_trust wrote:

Translation, we are going to trade two first round picks a 2nd; 4th and 5th for a fucking wide receiver.

the Pats will trade you Ochocinco for that.

Author:	dkfan9 [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 5:57 am ]
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thodoks wrote:

Author:	mray10 [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:23 pm ]
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i got bugs wrote: there is no way the pats can cover nicks-cruz-manningham the giants dl will may not shut down brady but theyll slow him down the pats hardly beat anyone good all season giants are fire right now actually i think this giants team is better than the one that beat brady before, and that pats team is nowhere as good as the 18-0 team i like the gints over the pats only thing brady has going for him is the revenge factor from last time I agree with most of this. They aren't the same teams they were 4 years ago but they both try to do the same things. the Giants should still be able to put pressure on Brady and make life difficult for him, as they did in 07 and as they did earlier this season. Maybe the biggest difference this time around is that the Giants are much better offensively than they were 4 years ago. But, it's one game. If the Pats can scheme a way to get Brady enough time then he certainly has the ability to put up points.

Author:	mray10 [ Thu Jan 26, 2012 3:27 pm ]
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4/5 wrote: thodoks wrote: 4/5 wrote: thodoks wrote: excuses are mounting Your team is living proof it's better to be lucky than good. Give me a break. Teams don't make five out of the last ten Super Bowls, six out of the last ten AFC championships, and eight out of the last ten years' playoffs (and missing one year despite having an 11-5 record without Tom Brady) by being lucky. At least, not exclusively. Of course they've had some balls bounce their way. But no team wins a championship without getting a few breaks. David Tyree caught a ball with his fucking helmet for Christ's sake. Spoiler: show That might have been your most successful troll yet. No troll, though it was certainly successful. Lucky and good aren't mutually exclusive, and this incarnation of the Patriots is more the former than the latter. Obviously they're good. They were 13-3 and played well enough to beat a better team last weekend. So there's no denying that. I just don't think they are Super Bowl good. That's where luck has come in. (I'm not trying to begrudge "luck here either) I think everything from their schedule to other playoff results and the Championship game itself has broken in their favor. Hey, it happens. And they've taken advantage of it. I'd give my left nut for the Dolphins to be either that lucky or good once in my lifetime. I'd say they're a good team that's here more out of luck than some mystical "resilient" quality that this 2011 version of the Pats supposedly has that the 2007 version was lacking. Basically, I hated that article you posted a few days ago. The Giants aren't here because they know how to close or are resilient or wanted it more or somesuchnonsense like that. They're here because the 49ers backup punt return fumbled away the game. Just like this Patriots team doesn't know how to win and all that BS compared to an '07 team who supposedly didn't win because they hadn't been pushed during the regular season. I hate stupid sports cliched platitudes like that. That Pats team lost because their o-line wasn't as perfect/healthy as it had been all year long and hadn't faced a pass rush like that all year. (Yes, I know they played the Giants one month before). The Patriots definitely got breaks along their road to the Super Bowl. Just start with the fact that they are in the AFC, which this year is a much weaker conference than the NFC, so the road to a top seed was easier. After getting in, they also got good breaks. The Texans would have been a really tough out in these playoffs if their first and second string QBs didn't get hurt. The Steelers showed earlier in the year that they had the defensive personnel and schemes to slow down the Patriots--but they got hit with massive injuries and got knocked out of the playoffs. So the two teams the Patriots did have to face ended up being two that were particularly incapable of exploiting NE's biggest weakness (the secondary). All of that is good fortune for the Patriots. But at the same time they had to be a good team to even be in that position.

Author:	homersheineken [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:31 pm ]
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Author:	thodoks [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 6:35 pm ]
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pretty sure the happiest man on the planet right now is scott norwood

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Author:	nah [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 7:46 pm ]
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we are very lucky to be going to the superbowl.

Author:	pearljamfan80 [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:46 pm ]
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BuffaLOL moment there.

Author:	homersheineken [ Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:46 pm ]
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nah wrote: we are very lucky to be going to the superbowl. I agree, but not because of that play.

Author:	psychobain [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 12:28 am ]
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any chance of making this pro bowl game more watchable? ideas?

Author:	EllisEamos [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:07 am ]
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explosions naked women giant robots and/or aliens cute puppies that talk old people doing things that they don't normally do

Author:	Charlie [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 1:35 am ]
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no one watches the pro bowl HB

Author:	Mecca [ Mon Jan 30, 2012 7:06 am ]
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pearljamfan80 wrote: BuffaLOL moment there.

Author:	verb_to_trust [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 2:13 am ]
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Heard the new Bears GM conduct his first press conference today on the Chicago spots talk station......this guy is going to be terrible. He basically kept on repeating 'we are going to get players who are playmakers' over and over again.

Author:	Electromatic [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:00 pm ]
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verb_to_trust wrote: Heard the new Bears GM conduct his first press conference today on the Chicago spots talk station......this guy is going to be terrible. He basically kept on repeating 'we are going to get players who are playmakers' over and over again. Translation, we are going to trade two first round picks a 2nd; 4th and 5th for a fucking wide receiver.

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Author:	EllisEamos [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 9:42 pm ]
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Electromatic wrote: verb_to_trust wrote: Heard the new Bears GM conduct his first press conference today on the Chicago spots talk station......this guy is going to be terrible. He basically kept on repeating 'we are going to get players who are playmakers' over and over again. Translation, we are going to trade two first round picks a 2nd; 4th and 5th for a fucking wide receiver. the Pats will trade you Ochocinco for that.

Author:	Electromatic [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:13 pm ]
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EllisEamos wrote: Electromatic wrote: verb_to_trust wrote: Heard the new Bears GM conduct his first press conference today on the Chicago spots talk station......this guy is going to be terrible. He basically kept on repeating 'we are going to get players who are playmakers' over and over again. Translation, we are going to trade two first round picks a 2nd; 4th and 5th for a fucking wide receiver. the Pats will trade you Ochocinco for that. I thought he retired? They just let him wear the jersey to feel good about himself right?

Author:	ScottZeagle [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:17 pm ]
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I hope the Pats win - just so Ochocinco gets a Super bowl ring.

Author:	Green Habit [ Wed Feb 01, 2012 2:32 pm ]
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Time to lock this down so we can transition to the offseason and SB threads.