At least Bryzgalov is a rock.

Oh yeah, fuck 'em for sure. What's the top pairing now, Timonen and Meszaros?

luke schenn lol

luke schenn lol

Dammit! I hope that wretched franchise goes bankrupt and relocates to compton!

But in all seriousness, I'm still excited to see the changes holmgren is still guaranteed to make. He's in no way done. You don't strike out on landing a d-man like weber and not follow it up with at least another sizeable move.

What players of even remotely comparable impact are available right now? As much as I would hate it, I could see them signing Doan since he would be a perfect fit, but I have a hard time seeing how they could make any kind of significant upgrade on defense right now.

There's not a free agent D-man out there who can replace what they lost in Carle, to not even mention the gaping whole left by Pronger--Weber was probably the only available dude to fill that one. Not saying the Flyers will tank, and Holmgren isn't done, I don't think, but unless he pulls a trade I just don't think you're looking at a cup-winning team with that D.

If he doesn't sign Doan, he will trade for a d-man. If he signs Doan, he may or may not do that.

To be honest, Luke schenn is not much (if any) of a downgrade from Carle. Especially with schenn still being so young and with more upside. As of now, our team hasn't gotten worse from last season, in my opinion, but it also hasn't gotten any better yet. There are no recent seasons I can remember the flyers haven't appeared to get "better" at least by offseason standards, so I do think homer isn't done.

Not that he's Shea Weber, but if they're looking for help on D, maybe a big offer sheet to Subban?

As of now, our team hasn't gotten worse from last season

so having zero prospect of pronger contributing, losing carle, jvr, and jagr, while only gaining schenn equates to this team somehow being at last year's level or better? i'm speechless.

he didnt say the team got better

Maybe. From what I've seen, I think Luke Schenn is overhyped (just like a lot of Toronto prospects tend to be) and, at least for the upcoming season, is a downgrade from Carle.

I think he was rushed to the NHL, and that has delayed his development. Still, he's had two very good seasons where he played a perfect shutdown role with strong physical play and a decent offensive contribution. That's what he's capable of, and he should be able to bring that more consistently in a system that doesn't focus purely on offense.

As much as he's overhyped by Leafs fans, he's bashed by fans of other teams. It works the same way with every Leafs prospect because everyone either loves them or hates them. Nazem Kadri is either the next big offensive superstar or he's a career AHLer with no trade value. There tends to be very little middle ground with Leafs prospects, but that's exactly where Schenn should fit.