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 Post subject: Re: RIP Junior Seau
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:36 am 
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8 Chargers dead? Suicides? Murder? What are we talking here...?

Someone's settling scores, taking out everyone from the old crew...


Dan Fouts?

6 of 8 could be connected to football in some way:

    Junior Seau's suicide today.

    Linebacker David Griggs died in 1995 after his car slid off an expressway and hit a large sign pole. He was 28 years old at the time.

    Running back Rodney Culver died in a plane crash on May 11, 1996.

    Linebacker Doug Miller died in 1998 as the result of a lightning strike at the age of 28.

    Center Curtis Whitley died on May 11, 2008 as the result of an overdose and was found in his trailer home in West Texas.

    Defensive end Chris Mims died of an enlarged heart on Oct. 15, 2008.

    Defensive tackle Shawn Lee died from cardiac arrest on Feb. 26, 2011.

    Former Chargers linebacker Lew Bush died of a heart attack on Dec. 8, 2011.

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2 ... z1tlNGdDR9

how did you arrive at that number?

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Junior Seau
PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2012 12:46 am 
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dkfan9 wrote:
EllisEamos wrote:
Doug RR wrote:
bart d. wrote:
verb_to_trust wrote:
8 Chargers dead? Suicides? Murder? What are we talking here...?

Someone's settling scores, taking out everyone from the old crew...


Dan Fouts?

6 of 8 could be connected to football in some way:

    Junior Seau's suicide today.

    Linebacker David Griggs died in 1995 after his car slid off an expressway and hit a large sign pole. He was 28 years old at the time.

    Running back Rodney Culver died in a plane crash on May 11, 1996.

    Linebacker Doug Miller died in 1998 as the result of a lightning strike at the age of 28.

    Center Curtis Whitley died on May 11, 2008 as the result of an overdose and was found in his trailer home in West Texas.

    Defensive end Chris Mims died of an enlarged heart on Oct. 15, 2008.

    Defensive tackle Shawn Lee died from cardiac arrest on Feb. 26, 2011.

    Former Chargers linebacker Lew Bush died of a heart attack on Dec. 8, 2011.

Read more: http://aol.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2 ... z1tlNGdDR9

how did you arrive at that number?

first, i thought about the word "could."

then, i looked at how these guys died and thought, "yup, that could be football related," or i thought, "nope, that could not be football related."

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Junior Seau
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 Post subject: Re: RIP Junior Seau
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In lieu of another NFL death which could possibly have to do with brain injury,

I'd love to see the NFL take a stronger look this year the at horrible tackling technique particularly exhibited by DB's that in truth is spearing.

The word spearing seems foreign when you mention it to young players, but so many injuries occur because players lead with their head. They dive at knees with their heads, They dive at backs with their heads. It's ridiculous. Helmet to Helmet is one issue yes, but get their freaking necks up and WRAP UP! Knee to head will either scramble the knee or scramble the brain or both.

Seau had a lot going on, I don't think we can totally link it to simply NFL play but 20 years of some of the hardest hits in the league have to have taken their toll on his body.

People can say it's putting a skirt on players all they want, whatever. I don't want to see guys die on the field or after they are done, and they can change a lot with technique by making them pick up their heads. I have no issue with big hits if it's shoulder pad to face mask even though those are rough too it's part of the game. I just think they could stop some of the injury by perhaps limiting the suits of armor and focusing on technique.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Junior Seau
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most NFL running backs will slaughter a defensive player that has to tackle by raising up and using their arms. either no one, including offensive players, can hit or everyone can.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Junior Seau
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Linebacker David Griggs died in 1995 after his car slid off an expressway and hit a large sign pole.

is this the last could?

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Junior Seau
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bmacsmith wrote:
either no one, including offensive players, can hit or everyone can.

agreed, except re: passing QBs. hitting a QB is different because, like kickers and punters, the game makes them more vulnerable and less able to react.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Junior Seau
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RIP

If he purposefully shot himself in the chest in order to preserve his brain like Duerson...the implications of that are pretty huge. It's tragic and I could see even more guys ending up like this.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Junior Seau
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Orpheus wrote:
RIP

If he purposefully shot himself in the chest in order to preserve his brain like Duerson...the implications of that are pretty huge. It's tragic and I could see even more guys ending up like this.



my theory as a guy who works in IT and does not know Junior and is only going by what i read

didnt he drive his car off a cliff a while ago after being arrested (or maybe an argument with his GF) and say he fell asleep. i recall a lot of people wondering if it was a suicide attempt.

now he has the guts to do it but doesnt want people to think he is just suicidal without a reason so he shoots himself in the chest to make it look like it was because of football. it has been reported hes never missed a game cause he reported a concussion. thats not to say he never exp one

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Junior Seau
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dkfan9 wrote:
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Linebacker David Griggs died in 1995 after his car slid off an expressway and hit a large sign pole.

is this the last could?


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didnt he [junior] drive his car off a cliff a while ago after being arrested (or maybe an argument with his GF) and say he fell asleep. i recall a lot of people wondering if it was a suicide attempt.


again, could being the key word.

still, if we're at 5 of 8, that's still 62.5% of the men that have died that also played for the same team 18 years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: RIP Junior Seau
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Orpheus wrote:
RIP

If he purposefully shot himself in the chest in order to preserve his brain like Duerson...the implications of that are pretty huge. It's tragic and I could see even more guys ending up like this.

i never knew about duerson, thats wild

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