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Okay jazz heads, help me out here:

I play the hell out of this one Ornette Coleman record I have called Free Jazz: A Collective Improvisation. there are two quartets playing simultaneously, one on each channel. The music is free flowing and expressive. I really enjoy it, but I want more. I'm interested in traditional jazz instruments playing non-traditional styles, so don't recommend any Fusion-era Miles Davis or anything like that. I like that stuff too, but I need more records like Ornette Coleman.

What should I look for in used bins? Also, what is Sun Ra all about? Based on this post, would I enjoy him?

I was prepared to say that the first clip you posted wasn't what I was looking for, but that opening theme was just deceiving me. I like how it stays with a driving rhythm for some pretty wild improv to contrast with it. Who is that?

This Sun Ra isn't what I'm describing regarding traditional quartet instruments, but I'm liking it. I imagine that trumpet/keyboard interplay would sound great on headphones.

EAQuarttet and Supersilent are kind of slower out there jazz.

There's also an album called Beyond Quantum. Milford Graves is the drummer and Braxton plays sax. It's pretty fuckin all over the place.

Satoko Fujii Quartet is another.

Storm and Stress is a dude from Battles. Bit of a longshot.

There's also an album called Beyond Quantum. Milford Graves is the drummer and Braxton plays sax. It's pretty fuckin all over the place.

So, what's everyone's favorite 2010 release so far? I really like Mehldau's "Highway Star". Matt Chamberlain plays drums on that one.

I've been listening to this a lot lately Reid, is this up your alley?

I've been trying to get into jazz lately. I downloaded these albums today. I'm really not sure what I'm doing though. I like Coltrane's My Favorite Things. I'm totally lost when it comes to jazz.

Miles Davis-Sketches of Spain
Bill Evans Trio-Sunday at the Village Vanguard
Dave Brubeck-Time Out
John Coltrane-Giant Steps
John Coltrane-A Love Supreme
Thelonious Monk-Monk's Dream
Thelonious Monk-Brilliant Corners
Wayne Shorter-Speak No Evil

Author:	washing machine [ Wed May 12, 2010 10:58 pm ]
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Thanks guys. I'm writing all of this down in a little pocketbook that I carry around when I go to record stores. I can tell you right now that I've never seen Black Saint and the Sinner Lady in the used bins. I look every time!

Author:	Doug RR [ Wed May 12, 2010 11:01 pm ]
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washing machine wrote: Okay jazz heads, help me out here: I play the hell out of this one Ornette Coleman record I have called Free Jazz: A Collective Improvisation. there are two quartets playing simultaneously, one on each channel. The music is free flowing and expressive. I really enjoy it, but I want more. I'm interested in traditional jazz instruments playing non-traditional styles, so don't recommend any Fusion-era Miles Davis or anything like that. I like that stuff too, but I need more records like Ornette Coleman. What should I look for in used bins? Also, what is Sun Ra all about? Based on this post, would I enjoy him? trust me houston boy... report back after you have listened to these 3

Author:	spenno [ Thu May 13, 2010 2:27 am ]
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I've been listening to this a lot lately Reid, is this up your alley? Here's a track from that Sun Ra album I mentioned above, "cosmic funk" someone describes it as in the comments which is pretty accurate.

Author:	washing machine [ Thu May 13, 2010 3:20 am ]
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I was prepared to say that the first clip you posted wasn't what I was looking for, but that opening theme was just deceiving me. I like how it stays with a driving rhythm for some pretty wild improv to contrast with it. Who is that? This Sun Ra isn't what I'm describing regarding traditional quartet instruments, but I'm liking it. I imagine that trumpet/keyboard interplay would sound great on headphones. If you haven't heard the Ornette Coleman I'm referring to, here's the first part of it. I wouldn't play it with cats or children around:

Author:	theplatypus [ Thu May 13, 2010 3:45 am ]
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I have such a love/hate relationship with Ornette Coleman. I really like his work with Charlie Haden because he provides a great counterpoint to his wackiness, but I find that video you posted incredibly irritating. I like improvisation as much as the next guy, but I think I like melody more. Loving Alice Coltrane, spenno

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Author:	EastHastings [ Thu May 13, 2010 3:46 am ]
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EAQuarttet and Supersilent are kind of slower out there jazz. There's also an album called Beyond Quantum. Milford Graves is the drummer and Braxton plays sax. It's pretty fuckin all over the place. Satoko Fujii Quartet is another. Storm and Stress is a dude from Battles. Bit of a longshot.

Author:	spenno [ Thu May 13, 2010 5:43 am ]
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washing machine wrote: I was prepared to say that the first clip you posted wasn't what I was looking for, but that opening theme was just deceiving me. I like how it stays with a driving rhythm for some pretty wild improv to contrast with it. Who is that? Alice Coltrane, it was the first half of the title track from "Ptah the El Daoud". washing machine wrote: This Sun Ra isn't what I'm describing regarding traditional quartet instruments, but I'm liking it. I imagine that trumpet/keyboard interplay would sound great on headphones. It does. I can probably dig around and PM you some links if you'd like. I know it's nowhere near what you were describing, but I had the feeling you might dig it.

Author:	washing machine [ Thu May 13, 2010 2:52 pm ]
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Thanks spenno. Any link would be appreciated.

Author:	BlueNote [ Thu May 13, 2010 11:58 pm ]
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EastHastings wrote: There's also an album called Beyond Quantum. Milford Graves is the drummer and Braxton plays sax. It's pretty fuckin all over the place. Yeah with William Parker on bass. That album is awesome, a great introduction to Braxton and Parker who are two living legends you will need to explore as you delve into this music.

Author:	ThumbingMyWayToNFLD [ Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:18 am ]
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So, what's everyone's favorite 2010 release so far? I really like Mehldau's "Highway Star". Matt Chamberlain plays drums on that one.

Author:	theplatypus [ Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:23 am ]
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ThumbingMyWayToNFLD wrote: So, what's everyone's favorite 2010 release so far? I really like Mehldau's "Highway Star". Matt Chamberlain plays drums on that one. I actually haven't kept track of a lot of new releases other than the new Pat Metheny. I've heard great things about the Mehldau record but can't seem find it anywhere.

Author:	BlueNote [ Wed Aug 18, 2010 11:05 pm ]
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ThumbingMyWayToNFLD wrote: So, what's everyone's favorite 2010 release so far? I really like Mehldau's "Highway Star". Matt Chamberlain plays drums on that one. The 5 disc Chicago Tentet 3 Nights in Oslo release is just tremendous, one of those releases that only come around every few years. The Braxton/Hemingway Old Dogs set, the Decoy & Joe McPhee at Oto, and the Rova & Nels Cline Singers Celestial Septet are all extremely good as well.

Author:	ThumbingMyWayToNFLD [ Thu Aug 19, 2010 3:13 am ]
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platy, I've actually never really gotten into Metheny that much, which is surprising considering how much I love Scofield. I think I'll check out his new record. BlueNote, I've heard a couple of good things about the Decoy/McPhee album. I'll be checking it out. In the meantime:

Author:	BadMusic [ Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:09 am ]
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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/08/17/arts/ ... 7jazz.html http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010 ... ction.html

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Author:	Human Bass [ Fri Aug 20, 2010 12:51 pm ]
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spenno wrote: I've been listening to this a lot lately Reid, is this up your alley? This sounds like a remix of some RPG music. Really like it.

Author:	Mickey [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:05 pm ]
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I've been trying to get into jazz lately. I downloaded these albums today. I'm really not sure what I'm doing though. I like Coltrane's My Favorite Things. I'm totally lost when it comes to jazz. Miles Davis-Sketches of Spain Bill Evans Trio-Sunday at the Village Vanguard Dave Brubeck-Time Out John Coltrane-Giant Steps John Coltrane-A Love Supreme Thelonious Monk-Monk's Dream Thelonious Monk-Brilliant Corners Wayne Shorter-Speak No Evil

Author:	washing machine [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:07 pm ]
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Mickey wrote: I've been trying to get into jazz lately. I downloaded these albums today. I'm really not sure what I'm doing though. I like Coltrane's My Favorite Things. I'm totally lost when it comes to jazz. Miles Davis-Sketches of Spain Bill Evans Trio-Sunday at the Village Vanguard Dave Brubeck-Time Out John Coltrane-Giant Steps John Coltrane-A Love Supreme Thelonious Monk-Monk's Dream Thelonious Monk-Brilliant Corners Wayne Shorter-Speak No Evil Let me know what you think of Sketches of Spain, Monk's Dream and A Love Supreme. I think you'll thoroughly enjoy all three.

Author:	Doug RR [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:08 pm ]
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Mickey wrote: I've been trying to get into jazz lately. I downloaded these albums today. I'm really not sure what I'm doing though. I like Coltrane's My Favorite Things. I'm totally lost when it comes to jazz. Miles Davis-Sketches of Spain Bill Evans Trio-Sunday at the Village Vanguard Dave Brubeck-Time Out John Coltrane-Giant Steps John Coltrane-A Love Supreme Thelonious Monk-Monk's Dream Thelonious Monk-Brilliant Corners Wayne Shorter-Speak No Evil all great albums...enjoy

Author:	cutuphalfdead [ Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:08 pm ]
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Nothing to do with the music but I really like the expression "all that jazz".