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Author:  wooden_jesus [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:28 pm ]
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whenever i come back home from a night of heavy drinking, there is one album in the world that i can listen to. that album is nighthawks at the dinner. the greatest drunk album ever.
and jockey full of bourbon from RD is just about the coolsest song ever
man do i love tom waits!

Author:  elbarto [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 10:43 pm ]
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wooden_jesus wrote:
whenever i come back home from a night of heavy drinking, there is one album in the world that i can listen to. that album is nighthawks at the dinner. the greatest drunk album ever.
and jockey full of bourbon from RD is just about the coolsest song ever
man do i love tom waits!


finally somebody in this thread is backing me up about nighthawks!

Author:  stip [ Wed Feb 22, 2006 11:35 pm ]
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elbarto wrote:
stip wrote:
onejourney wrote:
washing machine wrote:
so i gather from this thread i should start with rain dogs?


Rain Dogs may be his best, but if you want to really trip out...start at the beginning, and progress.


Just be aware that the early records (the first two especially) have a very different feel. There is a real break with swordfishtrombones.

Rain Dogs, Blood Money, Heart of saturday night, closing time, bone machine, heart attack and vine, blue valentines, and mule variations are the best. You can't go wrong with any of them. You'll get more sheer variety of styles on Rain Dogs and Mule Variations though.

Rain Dogs is pretty universally considered his masterpiece


bloody money and blue valentine are ok but not some of his best. substitute them for small change and alice and that's a pretty definitive list (though my all time favorite will always be nighthawks, i have to concede that for whatever messed up reason people don't seem to enjoy it that much)


Any album with romeo is bleeding on it is awesome

I could never really get into alice, wheras blood money is one awesome song after another. Some of his best song titles ever too

Misery's the river of the world
Everything Goes To Hell
God's Away On Business
Starving in the Belly of a Whale
The Part You Throw Away (so beautiful)

I saw the play that Waits did the music for. It sucks.

Author:  elbarto [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:57 am ]
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its weird because i liked blood money a lot more than alice for about the first year after they came out. it hit me right away and i loved it. eventually though almost song by song the ones on alice really started to open up and grow on me tremendously. now blood money just seems more like standard cookie monster voice waits that doesn't have the compelling beauty, strange as it is, that alice has. either way him releasing two awesome albums the same day was one of the coolest things ever.

Author:  bart d. [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:07 am ]
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I like Blood Money, but Alice is much better.

Author:  stip [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:38 am ]
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elbarto wrote:
its weird because i liked blood money a lot more than alice for about the first year after they came out. it hit me right away and i loved it. eventually though almost song by song the ones on alice really started to open up and grow on me tremendously. now blood money just seems more like standard cookie monster voice waits that doesn't have the compelling beauty, strange as it is, that alice has. either way him releasing two awesome albums the same day was one of the coolest things ever.


I love Cookie Monster Tom.

But except for the part you throw away I agree that there is more beauty to Alice. it's just that the cookie monster songs are sooooooo f'ing good.

I thought about doing my dissertation on Thomas Hobbes so I could call it Starving in the Belly of a Whale

Author:  shades-go-down [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:37 pm ]
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elbarto wrote:
wooden_jesus wrote:
whenever i come back home from a night of heavy drinking, there is one album in the world that i can listen to. that album is nighthawks at the dinner. the greatest drunk album ever.
and jockey full of bourbon from RD is just about the coolsest song ever
man do i love tom waits!


finally somebody in this thread is backing me up about nighthawks!


Hey I love the damn thing too... it's just not in my top 5 Waits albums.

Author:  stip [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:20 pm ]
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Favorite song from each album?


Closing Time: Old shoes and picture postcards
Heart of saturday night: san diego serenade
Nighthawks: don't have one
Small Change: Tom Taubert's Blues
Foreign Affairs: can't stand the album
Blue Valentines: Romeo is bleeding
Heart attack and vine: mr. Siegal
Swordfishtrombones: 16 shells...
Rain Dogs: too hard to pick (gun street girl or time most likely)
Frank's wild years: Cold cold ground (all time favorite)
Bone Machine: Black Wings
The Black Rider: just the right bullets
Mule Variations: Hold On (come on up to the house is very close)
Alice: Alice
Blood Money: Starving in the belly of a whale or the part you throw away
Real Gone: How's it gonna end

Author:  The Big So-So [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:16 pm ]
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stip wrote:
Favorite song from each album?

Closing Time: Midnight Lullaby
The Heart of Saturday Night: New Coat of Paint
Nighthawks at the Diner: Better Off Without a Wife
Small Change: Step Right Up
Foreign Affairs: I Never Talk to Strangers
Blue Valentine: Wrong Side of the Road
Heartattack and Vine: Heartattack and Vine
One from the Heart: I Beg Your Pardon
Swordfishtrombones: 16 Shells from a 30-Ought Six
Rain Dogs: Tango Till They're Sore
Franks Wild Years: Cold Cold Ground
Bone Machine: Black Wings
The Black Rider: Just the Right Bullets
Mule Variations: Lowside of the Road
Alice: Alice
Blood Money: Another Man's Vine
Real Gone: Trampled Rose

Author:  stip [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:05 pm ]
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The Big So-So wrote:

Swordfishtrombones: 16 Shells from a 30-Ought Six
Franks Wild Years: Cold Cold Ground
Bone Machine: Black Wings
The Black Rider: Just the Right Bullets
Alice: Alice


nice choices :)

Author:  mongoloid [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:34 pm ]
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I got to see Tom Waits live in Oakland back in 96.
It was such a great show. He played alot of stuff off of Bone Machine, which was so cool. Seeing Goin out West, Earth Died Screaming, Jesus gonna be here, In the colosseum, etc. live was unbelievable.
The two show stoppers were Innocent When you Dream and Time. He sang a few more songs in an encore after Time - but the show really peaked there. You could hear a pin drop in the theatre even though the place was sold out. It was very moving.
And the stories he told were hilarious. There was an especially funny one about having dinner at the 7-11 around the corner before the show.

Author:  SmilinSkullRing [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:42 pm ]
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My favorite from the albums I have:


Closing Time: This is too tough of a choice, um, I'll say I Hope That I Don't Fall In Love With You...for now.

Heart attack and vine: Saving All My Love and Jersey Girl

Rain Dogs: Gun Street Girl or Blind Love

Mule Variations: Take It With Me

Alice: Kommienezuspadt

Blood Money: Starving In the Belly of a Whale

Real Gone: Don't Go Into That Barn

Author:  TS808 [ Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:54 pm ]
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mongoloid wrote:
I got to see Tom Waits live in Oakland back in 96.
It was such a great show. He played alot of stuff off of Bone Machine, which was so cool. Seeing Goin out West, Earth Died Screaming, Jesus gonna be here, In the colosseum, etc. live was unbelievable.
The two show stoppers were Innocent When you Dream and Time. He sang a few more songs in an encore after Time - but the show really peaked there. You could hear a pin drop in the theatre even though the place was sold out. It was very moving.
And the stories he told were hilarious. There was an especially funny one about having dinner at the 7-11 around the corner before the show.


I saw him in Seattle at the end of '04. Easily one of the top 5 shows I have ever seen. His voice is incredible live - really powerful and captivating. His band was perfectly suited for him - tight and weird.

Author:  shades-go-down [ Mon Feb 27, 2006 10:59 am ]
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stip wrote:
Rain Dogs: too hard to pick (gun street girl or time most likely)


The Big So-So wrote:
Rain Dogs: Tango Till They're Sore


Can't believe neither of you picked "Hang Down Your Head". It destroys me everytime I listen to it, and I've been singing it in my head non-stop for the last 2 days.

Hush a wild violet, hush a band of gold
Hush you're in a story I heard somebody told
Tear the promise from my heart, tear my heart today
You have found another, oh baby I must go away
So hang down your head for sorrow, hang down your head for me
Hang down your head tomorrow, hang down your head Marie

Hush my love the rain now, hush my love was so true
Hush my love a train now well it takes me away from you

So hang down your head for sorrow, hang down your head for me
Hang down your head, hang down your head, hang down your head Marie
So hang down your head for sorrow, hang down your head for me
Hang down your head, hang down your head, hang down your head Marie


:sigh: :sigh: :sigh:

Author:  stip [ Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:38 pm ]
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that's a good one. I think it gets lost in the mix sometimes with Time and Downtown train.

Author:  Timber [ Mon Feb 27, 2006 3:49 pm ]
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Closing Time: Old Shoes (& Picture Postcards)
Heart of Saturday Night: Shiver Me Timbers
Nighthawks at the Diner: Better Off Without a Wife
Small Change: Invitation to the Blues
Foreign Affairs: A Sight for Sore Eyes
Blue Valentines: Christmas Card From Hooker In Minneapolis
Heartattack & Vine: Ruby's Arms
Swordfishtrombones: 16 Shells From a Thirty-Ought Six
Rain Dogs: fucking everything
Frank's Wild Year: Yesterday is Here
Bone Machine: Murder in the Red Barn
The Black Rider: Russian Dance
Mule Variations: Big in Japan
Alice: Reeperbahn
Blood Money: Misery's the River of the World
Real Gone: Hoist That Rag

Author:  VAN [ Mon Feb 27, 2006 5:23 pm ]
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Closting Time -- Martha
Heart of Saturday Night -- (Looking for) The Heart of Saturday Night
Nighthawks as the Diner -- Better off Without a Wife
Small Change -- Invitation to the Blues
Foreign Affairs -- Sight for Sore Eyes
Blue Valentine -- Whistlin' Past the Graveyard
Heartattack and Vine -- Mr. Seigel, Ruby's Arms
Swordfishtrombone -- Shore Leave
Rain Dogs -- Downtown Train, Jocky Full of Burboun
Frank's Wild Years -- Innocent When You Dream
Bone Machine -- Who are You, That Feel
The Black Rider -- Just the Right Bullets
Mule Variations -- Hold On, Take it With Me
Blood Money -- The Part you Throw Away
Alice -- What Her Dissapear
Real Gone -- Hows it Gonna End, Make it Rain

Author:  Plastic Soul [ Mon Feb 27, 2006 8:59 pm ]
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I think I'll upload a few TW rarities for you guys in the RM gmail tonight. I'm just glad there seem to be so many fans here.

Author:  Plastic Soul [ Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:04 am ]
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uploaded. go, go, go, go!

Author:  LoathedVermin72 [ Tue Feb 28, 2006 4:40 am ]
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Closing Time: Ol' 55
Swordfishtrombones: Shore Leave
Rain Dogs: Jockey Full of Bourbon
Bone Machine: Goin' Out West
Mule Variations: Big In Japan/Filipino Box Spring Hog
Alice: Table Top Joe
Blood Money: Misery Is The River of the World
Real Gone: Hoist That Rag/Dead and Lovely (Though this is next to impossible.)

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