I agree that Paranoid is really, really good. Their debut is good, too. Outside of Sabbath Bloody Sabbath and those two, I think their other early stuff tends to be overrated. Vol. 4 and Master of Reality seemed pretty weak in comparison.
Please see Children of the Grave and Sweet Leaf from Master. That's great stuff.
Yes, you're right. Those are the only two songs I remember from either album.
After Forever, Lord of this World, and Into the Void are all excellent songs from MoR. You should re-listen to it.
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was the most solid record they put out with ozzy, not as much of a hits record as paranoid, but just better in general. master of reality and vol. 4 have the most embarrasingly bad production qualities of any music iv ever heard, they made solid songs, just shat away too much money on drugs. sabotage is good, and I love their first record.
ozzy sold out when he started his solo career. in sabbath he sometimes actually seemed to have some decent social commentary (war pigs, after forever [sorta], hand of doom, ect.) but seemd to resign himself to cheesy insubstantial subject matter. its a fact, not really an opinion.
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Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was the most solid record they put out with ozzy, not as much of a hits record as paranoid, but just better in general. master of reality and vol. 4 have the most embarrasingly bad production qualities of any music iv ever heard, they made solid songs, just shat away too much money on drugs. sabotage is good, and I love their first record.
ozzy sold out when he started his solo career. in sabbath he sometimes actually seemed to have some decent social commentary (war pigs, after forever [sorta], hand of doom, ect.) but seemd to resign himself to cheesy insubstantial subject matter. its a fact, not really an opinion.
Ozzy didn't write the lyrics. Hence the drastic downturn in quality after he lost Geezer as a writer.
Sabbath Bloody Sabbath was the most solid record they put out with ozzy, not as much of a hits record as paranoid, but just better in general. master of reality and vol. 4 have the most embarrasingly bad production qualities of any music iv ever heard, they made solid songs, just shat away too much money on drugs. sabotage is good, and I love their first record.
ozzy sold out when he started his solo career. in sabbath he sometimes actually seemed to have some decent social commentary (war pigs, after forever [sorta], hand of doom, ect.) but seemd to resign himself to cheesy insubstantial subject matter. its a fact, not really an opinion.
Ozzy didn't write the lyrics. Hence the drastic downturn in quality after he lost Geezer as a writer.
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I haven't listened to much Dio era Sabbath, even though I have that other best of Dio 2 disc that they did around here somewhere.
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it bamboozles me that people enjoy sabbath bloody sabbath.
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i saw the heaven and hell tour a couple of weeks ago and it was pretty cool. i really wasn't familiar with the dio part of the catalogue, but i went because the show included down and megadeth opening. all three bands were pretty good, phil anselmo was like a different person, all humility, thanking the crowd all the time and dedicating a song to dimebag. megadeth rocked like fuck ( hangar 18 ), and seeing tony iommi and geezer onstage was just the shit. dio's voice wasn't bad either.
as soon as i got home that day i downloaded mob rules and heaven and hell and they're pretty good albums. i still think the sabbath material with ozzy is the best, but the dio material ain't shabby at all.
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Only two pages for this thread, it's shameful.
I've been on a kick with these guys, mostly Vol. 4 and Master of Reality, though the self titled got some play on my road trip this weekend.
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