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 Post subject: Re: Monsters Of Folk (Conor Oberst, M. Ward, and Jim James)
PostPosted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 4:09 pm 
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I tried not to have huge expectations for this, so I'm liking it. Some songs aren't my cup of tea, but basically I'm really excited to see these guys bow.


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 Post subject: Re: Monsters Of Folk (Conor Oberst, M. Ward, and Jim James)
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They just announced they are playing Bridge School!

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BadRadio16 wrote:
They just announced they are playing Bridge School!


except besides them and Fleet Foxes the lineup is just TERRIBLE :?


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solace wrote:
BadRadio16 wrote:
They just announced they are playing Bridge School!


except besides them and Fleet Foxes the lineup is just TERRIBLE :?


The Fleet Foxes are pretty fucking awesome though.

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In case anyone is interested in the full lineup:

Neil Young

Chris Martin from Coldplay

No Doubt

Sheryl Crow

Monsters of Folk

Gavin Rossdale

Fleet Foxes

Wolfmother

Jimmy Buffett (Saturday only)

Adam Sandler (Sunday only)

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 Post subject: Re: Monsters Of Folk (Conor Oberst, M. Ward, and Jim James)
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maybe they could bill Fleet Foxes & Monsters of Folk early in the day then you could leave for a good portion and come back for Neil :)


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 Post subject: Re: Monsters Of Folk (Conor Oberst, M. Ward, and Jim James)
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SmilinSkullRing wrote:
I like it. Not as good as I expected, but I expected a lot from Conor and M. Ward. I'm liking it way more than the PJ album that's for sure. Temazcal is probably my favorite song.


yeah, i'm not digging it as much as i thought i would. it's really difficult to bring two musicians together that you like individually. especially when they are two vocalists.

classic case of concept over execution.


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 Post subject: Re: Monsters Of Folk (Conor Oberst, M. Ward, and Jim James)
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i just want Jim James to fall in love with reverb again. With this album and the last few mmj album's he's moved his vocals further up in the mix and added a slight delay instead. I miss the haunting, hall of reverb sound that he captured on The Tennessee Fire, At Dawn, It Still Moves, and even the All Things Must Pass tribute album. It seems to suit his voice much better than this new treatment. I thought the lack of reverb worked successfully on Z, but then he never turned back.

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i just want Jim James to fall in love with reverb again. With this album and the last few mmj album's he's moved his vocals further up in the mix and added a slight delay instead. I miss the haunting, hall of reverb sound that he captured on The Tennessee Fire, At Dawn, It Still Moves, and even the All Things Must Pass tribute album. It seems to suit his voice much better than this new treatment. I thought the lack of reverb worked successfully on Z, but then he never turned back.


I agree.

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ewww reverb

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ewww reverb


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i really could do without jim james on this album, whenever he shows up my interest dies

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i'm into double clicking :oops:

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i really could do without jim james on this album, whenever he shows up my interest dies

His presence isn't as bad as I expected it could be.

I have this problem. I enjoy some MMJ, but he's treated like a god around here a lot. I think it makes me dislike MMJ more than I do. :oops:

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I like the album enough. I would have rathered them all just work on new albums with their respective bands though.

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 Post subject: Re: Monsters Of Folk (Conor Oberst, M. Ward, and Jim James)
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it's like jim james was walking through the studio and this would happen.

Jim: That's a nice song you got there. I have ideas for some great harmonies for that chorus.

Conor: Oh, yeah? Lets hear it, I don't do harmonies well.

Jim: LALALLALALALALA (singing + recording)

Conor: Those are just 3 part chords.

Jim: Doesn't it sound great? It makes it BIG!

Conor: Well, it is big... like the universe, which will implode soon (I love women and run away.) What do you think Matt?

M. Ward: Leave me out of it, I'm working on better songs.

4th Guy in Band: One of you should really learn the drums. I don't need to be here for this.

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SmilinSkullRing wrote:
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i really could do without jim james on this album, whenever he shows up my interest dies

His presence isn't as bad as I expected it could be.

I have this problem. I enjoy some MMJ, but he's treated like a god around here a lot. I think it makes me dislike MMJ more than I do. :oops:


I think the reason why people love Jim James (or at least why I love Jim James) is because he has one of those iconic voices that can just soar and completely floor you. I can see how people might not be into his voice, the same way people can hate Neil Young, Tom Waits, Eddie Vedder, Bono, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan etc. because their voices are very prominent and very different than the norm. The reason that I find James' voice so endearing (especially on the first 3 MMJ albums) is because it seems so honest, and it feels like he is singing almost beyond his ability. When I listen to music, my ear goes directly to the vocals. If I can hear the sincerity in a singer's voice, something clicks for me...and something definitely clicks with Jim James when I hear him sing. He describes it well, himself, in the song "The Way He Sings" from At Dawn.

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 Post subject: Re: Monsters Of Folk (Conor Oberst, M. Ward, and Jim James)
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BadRadio16 wrote:
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i really could do without jim james on this album, whenever he shows up my interest dies

His presence isn't as bad as I expected it could be.

I have this problem. I enjoy some MMJ, but he's treated like a god around here a lot. I think it makes me dislike MMJ more than I do. :oops:


I think the reason why people love Jim James (or at least why I love Jim James) is because he has one of those iconic voices that can just soar and completely floor you. I can see how people might not be into his voice, the same way people can hate Neil Young, Tom Waits, Eddie Vedder, Bono, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan etc. because their voices are very prominent and very different than the norm. The reason that I find James' voice so endearing (especially on the first 3 MMJ albums) is because it seems so honest, and it feels like he is singing almost beyond his ability. When I listen to music, my ear goes directly to the vocals. If I can hear the sincerity in a singer's voice, something clicks for me...and something definitely clicks with Jim James when I hear him sing. He describes it well, himself, in the song "The Way He Sings" from At Dawn.


i generally find his voice empty, slightly generic, and lacking endearing character. :| different strokes i suppose.

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windedsailor wrote:
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SmilinSkullRing wrote:
windedsailor wrote:
i really could do without jim james on this album, whenever he shows up my interest dies

His presence isn't as bad as I expected it could be.

I have this problem. I enjoy some MMJ, but he's treated like a god around here a lot. I think it makes me dislike MMJ more than I do. :oops:


I think the reason why people love Jim James (or at least why I love Jim James) is because he has one of those iconic voices that can just soar and completely floor you. I can see how people might not be into his voice, the same way people can hate Neil Young, Tom Waits, Eddie Vedder, Bono, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan etc. because their voices are very prominent and very different than the norm. The reason that I find James' voice so endearing (especially on the first 3 MMJ albums) is because it seems so honest, and it feels like he is singing almost beyond his ability. When I listen to music, my ear goes directly to the vocals. If I can hear the sincerity in a singer's voice, something clicks for me...and something definitely clicks with Jim James when I hear him sing. He describes it well, himself, in the song "The Way He Sings" from At Dawn.


i generally find his voice empty, slightly generic, and lacking endearing character. :| different strokes i suppose.


haha yeah, I know there are a lot of people that feel that way. I just thought I'd share what makes James special for me. I'm a sucker for all the harmonies and reverb though, and that doesn't seem to be your cup of tea. See, I like Oberst, a lot but his voice is so bare and naked sounding that it makes me feel a little uncomfortable. I have the same problem with Elliott Smith. I respect them both a lot as songwriters, but their songs are hard to listen to.

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 Post subject: Re: Monsters Of Folk (Conor Oberst, M. Ward, and Jim James)
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Maybe I need to go back and listen some day, but yeah I've never found his voice to be particularly striking or honest or anything else really.

But I totally respect that you like him so much, Ryan. :peace:

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