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PostPosted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 4:58 am 
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stephen stills is a dork


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stephen stills is a dork

be that as it may, they were still a good (and i'd argue underrated) group.

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I have their first two albums. I like that song Bluebird a lot. Stephen Stills is underrated as a solo artist. His solo debut is incredible.


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I really don't know anything by Buffalo Springfield other than the song on the Forrest Gump soundtrack, but I saw CSNY this summer, and that has led me to believe that any combination of Stills and Young is a good combination. Neil Young is obviously absolutely amazing, and Stills also totally blew the house down. So I say Buffalo Springfield has got to be a :thumbsup: .

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The Argonaut wrote:
I really don't know anything by Buffalo Springfield other than the song on the Forrest Gump soundtrack, but I saw CSNY this summer, and that has led me to believe that any combination of Stills and Young is a good combination. Neil Young is obviously absolutely amazing, and Stills also totally blew the house down. So I say Buffalo Springfield has got to be a :thumbsup: .


Your reasoning for assuming they are good (Stills and Young dominate life) is brilliant and accurate :thumbsup:


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The best songwriting that Stills ever did. His lyrics are really brilliant from this period. Smart, great rhymes with unusual structures. I'm as big a Neil Young devotee as there is, but Stills was the man in that group. By the time Neil got back together with CSN, Neil owned all of them, but in 1966-67, Stills was at the top of his game.

Apart from the Beatles, there was no other group with three singer/songwriters of the talents of Stills, Young, and Richey Furay. For a year or so, this was one of the greatest bands on earth, definitely the best in L.A., and this was when the Doors were first getting started too. It's a shame they couldn't hold it together for a bit longer.

Also, almost no live recordings survive, and all accounts say they were incendiary on stage.

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Also, almost no live recordings survive, and all accounts say they were incendiary on stage.


Yeah, I just learned this on my journey to obtain live recordings from my favorite artists. Very disappointing.


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Also, almost no live recordings survive, and all accounts say they were incendiary on stage.


Yeah, I just learned this on my journey to obtain live recordings from my favorite artists. Very disappointing.

Want to hear something awful? They opened a tour for the Beach Boys, and taped all the shows, and then the record company reused the tapes some time later.

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punkdavid wrote:
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Also, almost no live recordings survive, and all accounts say they were incendiary on stage.


Yeah, I just learned this on my journey to obtain live recordings from my favorite artists. Very disappointing.

Want to hear something awful? They opened a tour for the Beach Boys, and taped all the shows, and then the record company reused the tapes some time later.

Haha...you mean like taped over them?


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mowbs wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
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punkdavid wrote:
Also, almost no live recordings survive, and all accounts say they were incendiary on stage.


Yeah, I just learned this on my journey to obtain live recordings from my favorite artists. Very disappointing.

Want to hear something awful? They opened a tour for the Beach Boys, and taped all the shows, and then the record company reused the tapes some time later.

Haha...you mean like taped over them?

Yup. On purpose. A lot of tapes were reused, unless they were archived for some reason, and since the band had broken up and no one expected anyone to ever want these concert recordings, they reused the tapes.

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punkdavid wrote:
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punkdavid wrote:
Also, almost no live recordings survive, and all accounts say they were incendiary on stage.


Yeah, I just learned this on my journey to obtain live recordings from my favorite artists. Very disappointing.

Want to hear something awful? They opened a tour for the Beach Boys, and taped all the shows, and then the record company reused the tapes some time later.

Haha...you mean like taped over them?

Yup. On purpose. A lot of tapes were reused, unless they were archived for some reason, and since the band had broken up and no one expected anyone to ever want these concert recordings, they reused the tapes.

Haha. Oh man, that's unreal.


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Expecting to Fly is one of the most gorgeous songs I've ever heard.

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If you buy the Box Set, you'll have everything you ever need from the band, since disc 4 is the first two albums, and the third album sucks except for the good songs, which are in the box set anyway. The early demos on disc 1 are fantastic, including a demo of "Flying on the Ground is Wrong" with Neil on vocals. Beautiful.

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Buffalo Springfield is a very under-rated group, and probably the best folk-rock group from the 60s after The Byrds. Like what has been said, some of Stills' best songs are from their albums, and Neil wrote a lot of his best early work here, plus he did some great guitar work on their albums, as well. Along with the Faces box, the Buffalo Springfield box set is one of the essentials for any rock fan.

In fact, I just recently burnt a 29-song Buffalo Springfield mix yesterday, but have yet to listen to it, but will once I get home.

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stills and young were terrible together on their one tour that neil cut short. i think it was 76 or 74. There was one amazing version of southern man they did together, but otherwise they were mostly out of sync and messy. i have two shows from that tour and there are random standouts here and there, but otherwise they sucked as a whole together.

however in csny and buffalo springfield they rocked.


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stills and young were terrible together on their one tour that neil cut short. i think it was 76 or 74. There was one amazing version of southern man they did together, but otherwise they were mostly out of sync and messy. i have two shows from that tour and there are random standouts here and there, but otherwise they sucked as a whole together.

however in csny and buffalo springfield they rocked.

One of teh most ill-conceived projects of Neil's career, and he's had quite a few.

By the mid-70's, Stills was finished. Cocaine burnout, he's never been the same. The amount of decent songs he's had since the end of Manassas you can count on one hand.

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Does anyone know where I can find an acoustic version of Broken Arrow? A friend was telling me about it, but I'm not sure if it's studio or NY live. How do the two versions on the boxset differ?


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Does anyone know where I can find an acoustic version of Broken Arrow? A friend was telling me about it, but I'm not sure if it's studio or NY live. How do the two versions on the boxset differ?

There's only the regular studio version on the box set.

Neil has only played this song 10 times (known). The best circulated shows are Cincinnati 2-25-70, Milwaukee 11-15-92, and Salzburg 8-18-95 (w/ Pearl Jam). He also played it at all four Fillmore East shows in 1970, but I don't know if recordings exist of those.

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Does anyone know where I can find an acoustic version of Broken Arrow? A friend was telling me about it, but I'm not sure if it's studio or NY live. How do the two versions on the boxset differ?

There's only the regular studio version on the box set.

Neil has only played this song 10 times (known). The best circulated shows are Cincinnati 2-25-70, Milwaukee 11-15-92, and Salzburg 8-18-95 (w/ Pearl Jam). He also played it at all four Fillmore East shows in 1970, but I don't know if recordings exist of those.


recordings exist of the acoustic fillmore sets, and one of them is on dime now, actually

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