I'm not even sure that's the right name for this music which is very hardcore, and almost always consists of the singer using this very deep, gutteral, i don't even know how to describe, voice.
It was only a few weeks ago that i found out these vocalists are actually singing lyrics...I didn't even know; thought they were just making sounds
I like the music but don't quite get the vocal part; any fans of this genre wanna help me out? just trying to understand where they're coming from
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'sanother instrument.
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I guess it is more of another texture as much as an instrument, may be more accurate. It fits the aesthetic, see
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cause of a song on Possessed's Seven Churches, duh
also it sounds way fly and rolls with the overall aesthetic of the genre, don't you think?
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I never read death metal lyrics. However, the vocals are one of the most distinguishing aspects of an individual band and they play a big role in whether I like the band or not.
It is definitely an acquired taste, but once you get used to them, it is easy to spot the good vocalists from the bad. Most of the time I like the lowest vocals the best. Demilich, Wormed, Disgorge, Cenotaph (TUR) and Cryptopsy are examples of some of my favorites, if you are interested in checking them out.
Doing good death metal vocals is really fucking hard actually, I've been working on doing them myself because I've had a number of people suggest to me that I should try them, I guess my voice is suited for it. I have a pretty low gurgle that I can pull off but after about 10 minutes of it I am on the verge of puking and my voice starts cracking like crazy. It literally makes me sick to my stomach because you use all sorts of muscles in your abdomen and throat that aren't used to being used in that way. Sounds weird, I know.
As far as lyrical themes, gore, brutality, death, and violence predominate to a huge extent. However, it's a pretty old and tired formula, even to many DM fans I know, and some of the best bands recently have grown past those kinds of lyrics to write about space, metaphysics, psychology, and other more esoteric topics. Wormed, on their album Planisphaerium (my favorite death metal album), has lyrics based entirely on analyzing the existence of humans with relation to the universe and time, highlighting our ultimate worthlessness and insignificance using some pretty complex ideas and really deep analyses.
In most death metal, but especially brutal death metal, the aesthetic goal is to sound as disturbing as possible. Very strong low frequencies, abrupt and jarring rhythmic patterns, dissonant and chaotic riffs, inhuman sounding vocals, and pummeling drums over incoherent time changes play significant roles in achieving this effect. Vocals being the most obviously human element in death metal are often pushed to sound as strange as possible for this reason. The most effective brutal death metal is the kind which doesn't give the listener any room to breath, relax, or catch up to what is happening in the music. In this way it is possible to get carried away and enveloped in chaos similar to how one would get enveloped with drone such as Jesu or some ambient piece, but in a sort of opposite way.
Some of the more classical or old school death metal bands are more focused on writing catchy, groovy, or heavy riffs, and they rely more on the power of those riffs and guitar work to drive the music, rather than shifting constantly. This kind of death metal is obviously more friendly to the average listener and you are more likely to have parts of a song or riffs stick out in your head or remembered after listening to them.
If you wanted a quick sampling of some essential death metal albums from across the genre, check a few of these out:
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness (old school death metal) Cryptopsy - None So Vile (technical death metal) Cynic - Focus (technical/progressive death metal) Death - Symbolic OR The Sound of Perseverance (old school/progressive death metal) Suffocation - Effigy of the Forgotten (brutal death metal) Nile - In Their Darkened Shrines (technical death metal)
Generally speaking, there are 3 main subgenres of death metal. The only way to really be able to tell the difference is by listening and learning them, but anyway they are:
death metal/old school death metal (started as early as 83-84 with a handful of bands) brutal death metal (started around '92 with Suffocation) technical death metal (started around '90 with Cynic)
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Buffalohed wrote:
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I never read death metal lyrics. However, the vocals are one of the most distinguishing aspects of an individual band and they play a big role in whether I like the band or not.
It is definitely an acquired taste, but once you get used to them, it is easy to spot the good vocalists from the bad. Most of the time I like the lowest vocals the best. Demilich, Wormed, Disgorge, Cenotaph (TUR) and Cryptopsy are examples of some of my favorites, if you are interested in checking them out.
Doing good death metal vocals is really fucking hard actually, I've been working on doing them myself because I've had a number of people suggest to me that I should try them, I guess my voice is suited for it. I have a pretty low gurgle that I can pull off but after about 10 minutes of it I am on the verge of puking and my voice starts cracking like crazy. It literally makes me sick to my stomach because you use all sorts of muscles in your abdomen and throat that aren't used to being used in that way. Sounds weird, I know.
As far as lyrical themes, gore, brutality, death, and violence predominate to a huge extent. However, it's a pretty old and tired formula, even to many DM fans I know, and some of the best bands recently have grown past those kinds of lyrics to write about space, metaphysics, psychology, and other more esoteric topics. Wormed, on their album Planisphaerium (my favorite death metal album), has lyrics based entirely on analyzing the existence of humans with relation to the universe and time, highlighting our ultimate worthlessness and insignificance using some pretty complex ideas and really deep analyses.
In most death metal, but especially brutal death metal, the aesthetic goal is to sound as disturbing as possible. Very strong low frequencies, abrupt and jarring rhythmic patterns, dissonant and chaotic riffs, inhuman sounding vocals, and pummeling drums over incoherent time changes play significant roles in achieving this effect. Vocals being the most obviously human element in death metal are often pushed to sound as strange as possible for this reason. The most effective brutal death metal is the kind which doesn't give the listener any room to breath, relax, or catch up to what is happening in the music. In this way it is possible to get carried away and enveloped in chaos similar to how one would get enveloped with drone such as Jesu or some ambient piece, but in a sort of opposite way.
Some of the more classical or old school death metal bands are more focused on writing catchy, groovy, or heavy riffs, and they rely more on the power of those riffs and guitar work to drive the music, rather than shifting constantly. This kind of death metal is obviously more friendly to the average listener and you are more likely to have parts of a song or riffs stick out in your head or remembered after listening to them.
If you wanted a quick sampling of some essential death metal albums from across the genre, check a few of these out:
Morbid Angel - Altars of Madness (old school death metal) Cryptopsy - None So Vile (technical death metal) Cynic - Focus (technical/progressive death metal) Death - Symbolic OR The Sound of Perseverance (old school/progressive death metal) Suffocation - Effigy of the Forgotten (brutal death metal) Nile - In Their Darkened Shrines (technical death metal)
Generally speaking, there are 3 main subgenres of death metal. The only way to really be able to tell the difference is by listening and learning them, but anyway they are:
death metal/old school death metal (started as early as 83-84 with a handful of bands) brutal death metal (started around '92 with Suffocation) technical death metal (started around '90 with Cynic)
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i agree with buffalohed that it was indeed an awesome post from buffalohed.
i remember enjoying Death quite a lot for some time although i don't recall the title of the album.
Chiendent's bassist is pretty well-versed in old-school and odd DM and we often listen to his old cassettes in his old car he has some pretty obscure and tasty stuff i think. DM was pretty huge in quebec for a decade.
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hey buff I'll say things later but in the meantime I am just going to suggest that maybe Domination is Morbid Angel's best.
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then i should give it a try!
he has some pretty obscure and tasty stuff i think. DM was pretty huge in quebec for a decade.