Post subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 -
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:08 am
too drunk to moderate properly
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I wasn't going to get the full PI box, but I may have to rethink that.
BONUS DISC
1) By June (Ignoffo Sessions/2012 Mix) 2) My Dahlia (Ignoffo Sessions/2012 Mix) 3) Jesus Loves His Babies (Gish Sessions Rough Mix) 4) Cinnamon Girl (Ignoffo Sessions/2012 Mix) 5) Glynis (2012 Mix) 6) Crawl (Gish Sessions outtake) 7) Cinder Open (Eddy St. demo/2012 Mix) 8 ) Blissed (Sadlands demo/2012 Mix) 9) Slunk (Live) (2012 – Remaster) 10) Jackie Blue 11) Venus in Furs (Live) 12) Translucent (Sadlands demo/2012 mix) 13) French Movie Theme (Siamese Sessions outtake) 14) Purr Snickety (Gish b-sides session outtake) 15) There It Goes (Demo/2012 Mix) 16) Vanilla (Ignoffo Sessions) 17) Why Am I So Tired (Live in studio demo)
DVD TRACKLISTING
1) Intro by Billy Corgan Lou Hinkhouse 2) Pulse Cable Show Introduction by Lou Hinkhouse 3) There It Goes (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 4) She (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 5) She (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 6) Under Your Spell (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 7) My Eternity (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 8 ) My Eternity (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 9) My Eternity (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 10) My Eternity (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 11) Bleed (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 12) Nothing and Everything (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 13) Jennifer Ever (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 14) Jennifer Ever (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 15) Jennifer Ever (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 16) Jennifer Ever (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 17) Jennifer Ever (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 18) Death of a Mind (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 19) Spiteface (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 20) Blue 21) Offer Up 22) The Joker 23) Slunk 24) Dancing In The Moonlight 25) Snap 26) Hello Kitty Kat
TAPE TRACKLISTING
1) A1: Jennifer Ever 2) A2: East 3) A3: Nothing And Everything 4) B1: Sun (Remix) 5) B2: She (Live) 6) B3: Spiteface
_________________ "Though some may think there should be a separation between art/music and politics, it should be reinforced that art can be a form of nonviolent protest." - e.v.
Post subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 -
Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:21 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:23 am Posts: 4187
¡B! wrote:
I wasn't going to get the full PI box, but I may have to rethink that.
BONUS DISC
1) By June (Ignoffo Sessions/2012 Mix) 2) My Dahlia (Ignoffo Sessions/2012 Mix) 3) Jesus Loves His Babies (Gish Sessions Rough Mix) 4) Cinnamon Girl (Ignoffo Sessions/2012 Mix) 5) Glynis (2012 Mix) 6) Crawl (Gish Sessions outtake) 7) Cinder Open (Eddy St. demo/2012 Mix) 8 ) Blissed (Sadlands demo/2012 Mix) 9) Slunk (Live) (2012 – Remaster) 10) Jackie Blue 11) Venus in Furs (Live) 12) Translucent (Sadlands demo/2012 mix) 13) French Movie Theme (Siamese Sessions outtake) 14) Purr Snickety (Gish b-sides session outtake) 15) There It Goes (Demo/2012 Mix) 16) Vanilla (Ignoffo Sessions) 17) Why Am I So Tired (Live in studio demo)
DVD TRACKLISTING
1) Intro by Billy Corgan Lou Hinkhouse 2) Pulse Cable Show Introduction by Lou Hinkhouse 3) There It Goes (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 4) She (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 5) She (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 6) Under Your Spell (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 7) My Eternity (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 8 ) My Eternity (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 9) My Eternity (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 10) My Eternity (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 11) Bleed (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 12) Nothing and Everything (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 13) Jennifer Ever (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 14) Jennifer Ever (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 15) Jennifer Ever (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 16) Jennifer Ever (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 17) Jennifer Ever (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 18) Death of a Mind (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 19) Spiteface (Pulse Basement Jam – Chicago) 20) Blue 21) Offer Up 22) The Joker 23) Slunk 24) Dancing In The Moonlight 25) Snap 26) Hello Kitty Kat
TAPE TRACKLISTING
1) A1: Jennifer Ever 2) A2: East 3) A3: Nothing And Everything 4) B1: Sun (Remix) 5) B2: She (Live) 6) B3: Spiteface
Why are some songs repeated and from the same session??
Post subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 -
Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 1:09 pm
too drunk to moderate properly
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:19 pm Posts: 39068 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Gender: Male
No matter how many discs they include with these box sets, it'll never be enough to contain Billy Corgan's ego.
Billy Corgan wrote:
I’m a career artist. I’m still gonna be here in 10 years and you’re gonna rue the day that you didn’t support me because you’re gonna need me, just like the Loop in Chicago needed Led Zeppelin 15 years later.
_________________ "Though some may think there should be a separation between art/music and politics, it should be reinforced that art can be a form of nonviolent protest." - e.v.
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Post subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 -
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:12 pm
Force of Nature
Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 3:49 am Posts: 306
The Pisces Iscariot reissue has been an absolute clusterfuck. The physical CDs have glitches and tracking errors and disc 2 is brickwalled. All those that pre-ordered 24/96 Hi-Def downloads are now being informed that they don't have 24/96 and we were given 24-bit/44.1kHz instead despite being charged for Hi-Def. And the remix of one of my favorite tracks, Glynis, is terrible. BC starts laughing towards the end!
_________________ "Though some may think there should be a separation between art/music and politics, it should be reinforced that art can be a form of nonviolent protest." - e.v.
Post subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 -
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:38 pm
Force of Nature
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:41 pm Posts: 618 Gender: Male
Man, the bonus tracks for Pisces Iscariot are really great. He had so much freaking talent and recorded so many great songs during that period. He could have just rerecorded the best of the bonus tracks from the Gish, SD and Pisces Iscariot reissue and put out a fucking epic double album instead of Oceania and probably gotten the universal critical acclaim he so desperately wants.
This isn't a knock on Oceania - I think that album is very very good and exceeded my expectations - but damn, his early 90s stuff just kills it.
Post subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 -
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:47 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:23 am Posts: 4187
J's Brain wrote:
Man, the bonus tracks for Pisces Iscariot are really great. He had so much freaking talent and recorded so many great songs during that period. He could have just rerecorded the best of the bonus tracks from the Gish, SD and Pisces Iscariot reissue and put out a fucking epic double album instead of Oceania and probably gotten the universal critical acclaim he so desperately wants.
This isn't a knock on Oceania - I think that album is very very good and exceeded my expectations - but damn, his early 90s stuff just kills it.
yes, even as an Oceania fan, his songs from that era are amazing....and he was really in other level of songwriting compared to his peers..
Post subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 -
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:03 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Joined: Wed Aug 25, 2010 6:37 am Posts: 3819
J's Brain wrote:
He could have just rerecorded the best of the bonus tracks from the Gish, SD and Pisces Iscariot reissue and put out a fucking epic double album instead of Oceania and probably gotten the universal critical acclaim he so desperately wants.
Nah, there's probably no situation that would involve Billy Corgan getting "universal critical acclaim" at this point, and from what I've heard, these bonus tracks aren't that good. Those early SP tracks are greater achievements in orchestrated riffs and noise than they are in songwriting, and the present day Pumpkins just don't make that same noise. I'd posit that a re-recording of those old tracks not only wouldn't sound much better than "Oceania," it probably wouldn't sound that much different.
Post subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 -
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:08 pm
Yeah Yeah Yeah
Joined: Thu Jul 14, 2005 12:23 am Posts: 4187
Kevin Davis wrote:
J's Brain wrote:
He could have just rerecorded the best of the bonus tracks from the Gish, SD and Pisces Iscariot reissue and put out a fucking epic double album instead of Oceania and probably gotten the universal critical acclaim he so desperately wants.
Nah, there's probably no situation that would involve Billy Corgan getting "universal critical acclaim" at this point, and from what I've heard, these bonus tracks aren't that good. Those early SP tracks are greater achievements in orchestrated riffs and noise than they are in songwriting, and the present day Pumpkins just don't make that same noise. I'd posit that a re-recording of those old tracks not only wouldn't sound much better than "Oceania," it probably wouldn't sound that much different.
those songs are good in every way...the lyrics are good, the noise, the riffs...i dont know how would they sound now, and actually i dont care. I like the fact that billy records and release his material, even if he needs a good producer most of the time.
Post subject: Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 -
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:06 pm
Force of Nature
Joined: Wed Jan 05, 2005 3:41 pm Posts: 618 Gender: Male
VinylGuy wrote:
Kevin Davis wrote:
J's Brain wrote:
He could have just rerecorded the best of the bonus tracks from the Gish, SD and Pisces Iscariot reissue and put out a fucking epic double album instead of Oceania and probably gotten the universal critical acclaim he so desperately wants.
Nah, there's probably no situation that would involve Billy Corgan getting "universal critical acclaim" at this point, and from what I've heard, these bonus tracks aren't that good. Those early SP tracks are greater achievements in orchestrated riffs and noise than they are in songwriting, and the present day Pumpkins just don't make that same noise. I'd posit that a re-recording of those old tracks not only wouldn't sound much better than "Oceania," it probably wouldn't sound that much different.
those songs are good in every way...the lyrics are good, the noise, the riffs...i dont know how would they sound now, and actually i dont care. I like the fact that billy records and release his material, even if he needs a good producer most of the time.
yeah - these songs are awesome (mostly). It's not just a bunch of riffs - they are complete songs and definitely worth listening to.
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