So I may as well just fuck off and make them 320kpbs files for travel and leave the 24bit files for home use only.
Does it matter about the ipod? I have a spare classic and can install Rockbox, would that make a difference?
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| Author: | matt reeder [ Thu Nov 01, 2012 12:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
VinylGuy wrote: zeb wrote: VinylGuy wrote: AndySlash wrote: i just listened to machina. i still like most of this album and listening tonight made me think it has aged pretty well. that or i'm so down on 99% of what's come out since then that this just sounds remarkable in comparison. the first three minutes or whatever on glass + the ghost children is still one of my favorite musical pieces the band ever did. i hate machina...its my fault, i know because i can telll some of the songs there are great, but i just can´t listen to it...i only like 3 songs, everlasting gaze, try try try and heavy metal machine...the rest..i just cant listen to it. Stand Inside Your Love is one of the best singles Corgan ever wrote. its a great song but i cant stand the machina version....i prefer it acoustic or live. I have a problem with the production and mixing of that record. So do a lot of fans. There's a reason that Machina will be completely remixed / remastered / resequenced when that reissue comes out. It was supposed to be a double album and it ended up getting cut down to one disc. For me, it's all about "Speed Kills", especially the B-side version. I'm also quite fond of "The Sacred + The Profane", "Age of Innocence", "Glass + Ghost Children", "Wound" and "I of the Mourning". There's a lot of good stuff on that album but it gets overshadowed by the poor production and the overwhelming shittyness of a few tracks on the album (I'm thinking specifically of the album version of "Blue Skies Bring Tears" - you've got like 5 versions of the song and you pick by far the worst?). That's the reissue I might be most excited about, if Billy does it the way it could be done. |
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| Author: | VinylGuy [ Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
matt reeder wrote: VinylGuy wrote: zeb wrote: VinylGuy wrote: AndySlash wrote: i just listened to machina. i still like most of this album and listening tonight made me think it has aged pretty well. that or i'm so down on 99% of what's come out since then that this just sounds remarkable in comparison. the first three minutes or whatever on glass + the ghost children is still one of my favorite musical pieces the band ever did. i hate machina...its my fault, i know because i can telll some of the songs there are great, but i just can´t listen to it...i only like 3 songs, everlasting gaze, try try try and heavy metal machine...the rest..i just cant listen to it. Stand Inside Your Love is one of the best singles Corgan ever wrote. its a great song but i cant stand the machina version....i prefer it acoustic or live. I have a problem with the production and mixing of that record. So do a lot of fans. There's a reason that Machina will be completely remixed / remastered / resequenced when that reissue comes out. It was supposed to be a double album and it ended up getting cut down to one disc. For me, it's all about "Speed Kills", especially the B-side version. I'm also quite fond of "The Sacred + The Profane", "Age of Innocence", "Glass + Ghost Children", "Wound" and "I of the Mourning". There's a lot of good stuff on that album but it gets overshadowed by the poor production and the overwhelming shittyness of a few tracks on the album (I'm thinking specifically of the album version of "Blue Skies Bring Tears" - you've got like 5 versions of the song and you pick by far the worst?). That's the reissue I might be most excited about, if Billy does it the way it could be done. There is a great heavy version on If all goes wrong of "Blue Skies Bring Tears"...but yeah i cant seem to listen to that record..i prefer Zeitgeist, even if i know the songs arent that good. |
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| Author: | matt reeder [ Sat Nov 10, 2012 4:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
This is what I'm listening to right now. It sounds amazing and the show is great despite being very short for its era. --------------------- THE SMASHING PUMPKINS December 17, 1996 Arco Arena Sacremento, CA, US Source: Schoeps MK5>custom pre-amp>D8 Lineage: DAT>CDR>EAC>FLAC Link: http://archive.org/details/tsp1996-12-17.flac16 01. Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness (PA intro) 02. Tonight, Tonight 03. Rocket 04. Fuck You 05. By Starlight 06. Where Boys Fear to Tread 07. Zero 08. Today 09. Thru the Eyes of Ruby 10. Porcelina of the Vast Oceans 11. Galapogos 12. Disarm 13. Bullet with Butterfly Wings 14. Muzzle Encore One: 15. X.Y.U. Encore Two: 16. banter 17. 1979 18. Cherub Rock ------------------------ I mention this because Billy says that they taped the entire MCIS tour on DAT multi-track soundboard and that he hopes to release at least some shows in the future. Having the entire MCIS tour on soundboard is a beautiful, beautiful dream. Oh man... |
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| Author: | zoe1271 [ Thu Nov 22, 2012 5:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
Pre-order the MCIS reissue from the official site beginning Friday, 11/23 http://www.smashingpumpkins.com/albums/ ... s-reissue/ This one looks promising. I hope they don't screw it up like they did Pisces! |
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| Author: | ¡B! [ Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
12 options, eh? It is insanely unclear what each of these options actually includes. |
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| Author: | VinylGuy [ Sat Nov 24, 2012 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
i still have to get the Gish reissue...Billy give me time. And money. |
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| Author: | Simple Torture [ Fri Nov 30, 2012 5:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
This has to leak soon, right? |
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| Author: | zoe1271 [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 5:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
The MCIS reissue is great so far. The remaster is phenomenal, especially in 24/96. |
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| Author: | Simple Torture [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
The packaging and booklets for the vinyl are great. Haven't got a chance to listen to it yet; may save it for Friday afternoon, just so I can sit down with a beer and read through the liner notes as I listen. |
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| Author: | VinylGuy [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:12 pm ] |
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Simple Torture wrote: The packaging and booklets for the vinyl are great. Haven't got a chance to listen to it yet; may save it for Friday afternoon, just so I can sit down with a beer and read through the liner notes as I listen. how are the liner notes? is it all Billy? |
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| Author: | Simple Torture [ Wed Dec 05, 2012 2:54 pm ] |
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VinylGuy wrote: Simple Torture wrote: The packaging and booklets for the vinyl are great. Haven't got a chance to listen to it yet; may save it for Friday afternoon, just so I can sit down with a beer and read through the liner notes as I listen. how are the liner notes? is it all Billy? There's an introduction by some guy whose name is escaping me. Then there are song-by-song notes that look like they're all Billy. |
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| Author: | J's Brain [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 2:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
Geez.. 92 tracks! This is going to take a while to digest. I love these reissues. |
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| Author: | AndySlash [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
mcis vinyl purchasers: does your zero sound like this (mostly from just over 2 minutes on)? (not my video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWmnI_fA2MI mine does. seems like some copies have this issue, some don't. check yours... |
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| Author: | Simple Torture [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 6:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
I've only listened to it once, and I remember thinking "Zero" didn't sound as crisp as other songs. But it wasn't unlistenable or anything. |
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| Author: | AndySlash [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
mine is distorted as shit in the last half of the song. |
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| Author: | tyler [ Sun Dec 09, 2012 11:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
VinylGuy wrote: Simple Torture wrote: The packaging and booklets for the vinyl are great. Haven't got a chance to listen to it yet; may save it for Friday afternoon, just so I can sit down with a beer and read through the liner notes as I listen. how are the liner notes? is it all Billy? There is so much to digest. I never owned the original, so just getting through the original release is taking time. I sure missed out on these guys at the time. The dvd just leaves me wanting a full concert release from this time period. Overall a really nice set but honestly, it's over priced. It's bands and labels over pricing sets like this that just drive people to download it. |
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| Author: | Bune [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 4:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
So how would one go about playing 24/96 FLACs on an ipod? I read a post that ipods can play 24/48 Apple Lossless files but I don't see an option to downsample. Maybe I'm being thick, though. Also I found an app that says it'll play FLACs but it's $9.99 and the reviews were middling. Thanks. |
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| Author: | spenno [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 8:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
You can use external programs to downsample, I use XLD on Mac and it's great. FYI, and I only found this out recently, it won't be true 24/48 through the headphone jack if played through an iPod: everything going through the headphone jack is internally downsampled to 16 bit. |
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| Author: | Bune [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
So I may as well just fuck off and make them 320kpbs files for travel and leave the 24bit files for home use only. Does it matter about the ipod? I have a spare classic and can install Rockbox, would that make a difference? |
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| Author: | spenno [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 9:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Smashing Pumpkins Reissues 2011 - |
I think it's part of the hardware so, no, there's no way around it. Even if it says 24, it's only outputting 16 through the headphone jack. I agree, it's a bummer. I can't wait til I can have a portable device that plays 24/96 without any hassles. |
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