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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
PostPosted: Thu Sep 13, 2012 2:31 am 
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Gods' Die wrote:
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How lucky are we that Dylan and Waits are still putting out quality material to this day?


It makes me realize that we're not alive long enough or not enough hours in a day or something. Too much good shit out there.

I fucking love latter-day Dylan. Rolling Thunder Revue is also really good, best Dylan vocal era in my opinion, by far.


It's hard finding the Dylan detractors in that 70's period. His voice wasn't that twangy, whiny voice that some are annoyed with. More of his own identity than anyone elses.


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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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Any fellow Dylanites out there, this is a collection of odds-and-ends material I put together about 5 years ago that I find myself playing as much as any proper studio album, a personal compilation of B-sides, soundtrack material, non-album singles that didn't make Biograph, and some cream-of-the-crop bootleg stuff that no fan should be without--basically a bunch of great tracks that would be obnoxious to track down one at a time:

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1. Rocks and Gravel (1962, Freewheelin’ Bob Dylan outtake)
2. Bob Dylan’s New Orleans Rag (1963, The Times They Are A-Changin’ outtake)
3. Hero Blues (1963, The Times They Are A-Changin’ outtake)
4. The Times They Are A-Changin’ (1963, The Times They Are A-Changin’ outtake)
5. Outlaw Blues (1964 demo)
6. To Ramona (live 1965, Don’t Look Back outtake)
7. Can You Please Crawl Out Your Window (1965; alternate version appears on Biograph)
8. Spanish is the Loving Tongue (1970, New Morning outtake; B-side to “Watching the River Flow”)
9. Went to See the Gypsy (1970, New Morning outtake)
10. If Not for You (1970, New Morning outtake)
11. Tangled Up in Blue (1974, Blood on the Tracks New York sessions)
12. If You See Her, Say Hello (1974, Blood on the Tracks New York sessions)
13. Shelter From the Storm (1974, Blood on the Tracks New York sessions; Jerry Maguire soundtrack)
14. Idiot Wind (1974, Blood on the Tracks New York sessions)
15. Rita Mae (1975, Desire outtake; B-side to “Stuck Inside of Mobile” from Hard Rain)
16. Trouble in Mind (1979, Slow Train Coming outtake; B-side to “Gotta Serve Somebody”)
17. Carribbean Wind (1981, Shot of Love outtake; alternate version appears on Biograph)

CD2
1. Blind Willie McTell (1983, full-band version; Infidels outtake)
2. Band of the Hand (1986, non-album single)
3. Pretty Boy Floyd (1987, Folkways tribute album)
4. People Get Ready (1988, Flashback soundtrack)
5. You Belong to Me (1992, Good As I Been to You outtake; Natural Born Killers soundtrack)
6. My Blue-Eyed Jane (1994, Jimmie Rodgers tribute album)
7. Ring of Fire (1996, Johnny Cash tribute album)
8. Dignity (1994, from Bob Dylan’s Greatest Hits Volume 3)
9. Things Have Changed (2000, Wonder Boys soundtrack)
10. I Can’t Get You Off of My Mind (2000, Hank Williams tribute album)
11. Return to Me (2001, Sopranos soundtrack)
12. Red Cadillac and a Black Moustache (2002, Sun Records tribute album)
13. Dixie (2002, Masked and Anonymous soundtrack)
14. Diamond Joe (2002, Masked and Anonymous soundtrack)
15. Waitin’ For You (2003, Divine Secrets of the Ya-Ya Sisterhood soundtrack)
16. Tell Ol’ Bill (2005, North Country soundtrack)


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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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Bought this on release. Only managed a couple of listens but the whole thing is great and Tin Angel is incredible.

This is about a quarter of the lyrics...

Well, he threw down his helmet and his cross-handled sword
He renounced his faith, he denied his lord
Crawled on his belly, put his ear to the wall
One way or another put an end to it all
He leaned down, cut the electric wire
Stared into the flames and he snorted the fire
Peered through the darkness, caught a glimpse of the two
It was hard to tell for certain who was who
He lowered himself down on a golden chain
His nerves were quaking in every vein
His knuckles were bloody, he sucked in the air
He ran his fingers through his greasy hair
They looked at each other and their glasses clinked
One single unit, inseparably linked
“Got a strange premonition there’s a man close by”
“Don’t worry about him, he wouldn’t harm a fly”
From behind the curtain, the boss he crossed the floor
He moved his feet and he bolted the door
Shadows hiding the lines in his face
With all the nobility of an ancient race
She turned, she was startled with a look of surprise
With a hatred that could hit the skies
“You’re a reckless fool, I could see it in your eyes
To come this way was by no means wise”
“Get up, stand up, you greedy-lipped wench
And cover your face or suffer the consequence
You are making my heart feel sick
Put your clothes back on, double-quick”
“Silly boy, you think me a saint
I’ll listen no more to your words of complaint
You’ve given me nothing but the sweetest lies
Now hold your tongue and feed your eyes”


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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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I love the first 5 songs. Flawless. The rest for me is just okay. It does drag a bit, but I love the lyrical storytelling.

edit: I do like "Tin Angel" though.


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Okay, so after a few listens (I still haven't had time to sit down and listen with lyrics, but I have read em online)

Tweedle Dee and Tweedle Dum: One of my favorites on the record. Possibly my favorite. I really like the way this song manages to be dismissive towards its subject matter without actually denigrating the importance of it. It makes the dismissal all the more consequential despite the song trying really hard to convince itself that it doesn't matter. It seems obvious that this is a metaphor for something (politics?) but I don't know Dylan well enough to say for sure

Mississippi: Not quite ready to give this song the praise it was getting earlier in the thread, but this was another really good one. I like songs that celebrate life despite of and because of our mistakes. Reminds me of Tom Waits Bottom of the Well without his theatrics.

Summer Days: It's a fun song, and I like the aging rock star not apologizing for enjoying life feel to it. I'd like this song more if I cared more about Dylan. If I was listening to the album I wouldn't skip it, but I wouldn't seek this one out either.

Bye and Bye: He's got a distinctive voice so he can make these genre pieces feel unique. Still, this one just kind of floats bye without making any real impression

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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Lonesome Day Blues: Talking blues are hit or miss for me. This one is okay--the story he's telling doesn't rise above the repetition. The problem with the last three songs is that I feel like I am listening to genre exercises more than something that really grabs me on its own terms.

So far the writing is good, but it's clever more than its profound. Smart wordplay and what not but there hasn't really been that many lines that have stopped me in my tracks, outside of some really good ones in Mississippi.

I do like the second to last verse in Lonesome Day Blues

I’m gonna spare the defeated—I’m gonna speak to the crowd
I’m gonna spare the defeated, boys, I’m going to speak to the crowd
I am goin’ to teach peace to the conquered
I’m gonna tame the proud

Floater: I'm a fan of this one. It's hard not to like a song where within the first 30 seconds he's talking about being in love with his second cousin. This is a very relaxing song

High Water: Another of my favorites--probably top 3 on the album for me with the first two songs. I like the swampy urgency to this one. If Dylan and Tom Waits got into a contest to see who could out Americana the other who would win.

Moonlight: I guess i'm just not a fan of Dylan's love songs. Again I like the casual playfulness of these, and I wouldn't skip em, but I can't picture myself ever craving to hear moonlight

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Mississippi: Not quite ready to give this song the praise it was getting earlier in the thread, but this was another really good one. I like songs that celebrate life despite of and because of our mistakes. Reminds me of Tom Waits Bottom of the Well without his theatrics.



Did you listen to the Bootleg version on disc 1? Oh man, way better. I love it.


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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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Honest With Me: I seem to like his harder driving songs. I think they suit his voice and the ramshackle lyrics. This is another one I like a lot.

Po' Boy: it's clever and good natured enough it's hard not to like, but again I find myself wishing it was a bit more than clever.

Cry A While: I like the premise behind the song, but I'm not a fan. A little too jarring in its transitions, and neither segmentwas good enough to make up for that.


Sugar Baby: I need to listen to this one on its own, since I'm kinda done with this album by now, and I think I'd like this one a lot more if I came to it fresh.

Overall I liked this album enough to want to explore more. I was a big fan of Tweedle Dee, Mississippi, Floater, and High Water. Sugar Baby and Po'Boy was nice too. The rest was fine for what it was but didn't really excite me.

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Mississippi: Not quite ready to give this song the praise it was getting earlier in the thread, but this was another really good one. I like songs that celebrate life despite of and because of our mistakes. Reminds me of Tom Waits Bottom of the Well without his theatrics.



Did you listen to the Bootleg version on disc 1? Oh man, way better. I love it.


I don't have that

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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I mean, I don't know why he didn't release that slow acoustic version of "Mississippi" on Love and Theft but whatev. In my top 5 Dylan songs.

Get it.


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damn it, I posted this in the wrong thread

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"Lonesome Day Blues" is not a talking blues. And there are a lot of interpretations of "Moonlight" that propose Dylan is inviting his lover out into the moonlight to kill her.

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For Pete's sake!


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For Pete's sake!



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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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Kevin Davis wrote:
"Lonesome Day Blues" is not a talking blues. And there are a lot of interpretations of "Moonlight" that propose Dylan is inviting his lover out into the moonlight to kill her.


No? How would you classify it?

And that would probably make me enjoy moonlight more. One of my favorite TW's song is Widow's Grove, and one of the real selling points for me is for the darkness hidden in it.

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Why is there a song by song breakdown of 'Love and Theft' in a thread about Tempest?

OK - I just saw the earlier reference in the thread.

Things should start to get intaaaresting, right about now.


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I've started listening to tempest. So far i'm a fan.

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Long and Wasted Years :thumbsup:


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Bob Dylan predicts "grunge" movement four years before it happened. Weird - I don't believe in the supernatural but he always draws me to the edge.



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Here's a cool alternate take of Blood on the Tracks's "Meet Me In The Morning," from the B-side of the RSD "Duquesne Whistle" single:
http://jokerwoman.tumblr.com/post/36744 ... e-duquesne

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