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 Post subject: Bob Dylan: Tempest
PostPosted: Wed Aug 29, 2012 4:22 pm 
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Off Dylan's new album Tempest, out on Sept 11th,

Click the link below and watch the video to his new single "Duquesne Whistle". I don't think I've seen a funnier, weirder, and cooler music video in all my life.

http://blogs.indiewire.com/theplaylist/ ... n-20120829


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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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that was awesome.

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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This seemed pretty cool

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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that's what made it equal parts cool and hilarious. I thought, 'what's he doing back there?' haha.


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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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Bob Dylan can do whatever the fuck he wants and he knows it.

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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So this time around, Bob Dylan plagiarizes "When You're Smiling"?

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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I'm sure he's copping from something, but I'm not hearing "When You're Smiling." (Unless you're referring to a different song than the one I'm thinking of.)

Music videos are the animal print sweatshirts of the entertainment industry. I'd do fine to never see another one again. (Any Beastie Boys video is an exception to this.)

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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theplatypus wrote:
So this time around, Bob Dylan plagiarizes "When You're Smiling"?


is this the joni mitchell thing?


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There's a certain part that really reminds me of the faster-paced Louis Prima version of "When You're Smiling"-- "when you're crying, you bring on the rain. Stop your sighin', won't you be happy again". But it also reminds me of Cole Porter's "Let's Misbehave"-- "When Adam won Eve's hand he wouldn't stand for teasin', he didn't care about those apples out of season." I think it's a melodic turn common in songs from that era.

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I liked it. I'll buy the album.

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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I can hear that part in "Let's Misbehave." I was just cranking EC's version of that not long ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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theplatypus wrote:
So this time around, Bob Dylan plagiarizes "When You're Smiling"?


He certainly lifts regularly, but he lifts quality material and he uses it to create something that fits him. Whoopdi-shit. Bruce took Meet Me at Mary's Place, Tom Waits has borrowed from a huge number of sources, Neil Young has borrowed from Tom Waits, Pearl Jam took Going to California, Zeppelin took....ah.....just...ah.....well....etc etc etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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Isn't it common place for bluesy folk artists to take from others? Like different renditions and takes on songs?


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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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Yep.

I'm not sure Jorge was making a complaint or even a criticism, as much as just an observation.

But, yeah, of all the things in this world to hold against Bob Dylan.... ya know?

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McParadigm wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
So this time around, Bob Dylan plagiarizes "When You're Smiling"?


He certainly lifts regularly, but he lifts quality material and he uses it to create something that fits him. Whoopdi-shit. Bruce took Meet Me at Mary's Place, Tom Waits has borrowed from a huge number of sources, Neil Young has borrowed from Tom Waits, Pearl Jam took Going to California, Zeppelin took....ah.....just...ah.....well....etc etc etc.

Like d,t said, it was an observation. But thanks for the history lesson, I had no idea that sometimes musicians used the work of other musicians as templates. :?

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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i kinda liked it...i see what platypus hears in the song, Dylan has been copying a lot of artists these last records.

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McParadigm wrote:
theplatypus wrote:
So this time around, Bob Dylan plagiarizes "When You're Smiling"?


He certainly lifts regularly, but he lifts quality material and he uses it to create something that fits him. Whoopdi-shit. Bruce took Meet Me at Mary's Place, Tom Waits has borrowed from a huge number of sources, Neil Young has borrowed from Tom Waits, Pearl Jam took Going to California, Zeppelin took....ah.....just...ah.....well....etc etc etc.

Like d,t said, it was an observation. But thanks for the history lesson, I had no idea that sometimes musicians used the work of other musicians as templates. :?


:haha: you sound bitter,is everything ok?


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VinylGuy wrote:
i kinda liked it...i see what platypus hears in the song, Dylan has been copying a lot of artists these last records.

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theplatypus wrote:
So this time around, Bob Dylan plagiarizes "When You're Smiling"?


He certainly lifts regularly, but he lifts quality material and he uses it to create something that fits him. Whoopdi-shit. Bruce took Meet Me at Mary's Place, Tom Waits has borrowed from a huge number of sources, Neil Young has borrowed from Tom Waits, Pearl Jam took Going to California, Zeppelin took....ah.....just...ah.....well....etc etc etc.

Like d,t said, it was an observation. But thanks for the history lesson, I had no idea that sometimes musicians used the work of other musicians as templates. :?


:haha: you sound bitter,is everything ok?


These last years? You mean the past 50 years? It's his freaking trademark.

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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He is known for it, but loved despite of it. God bless his soul.

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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Three more have leaked:
Narrow Way - http://youtu.be/ysk5yrF-818
Pay In Blood - http://youtu.be/ndXoaqMJKHA
Scarlet Town - http://youtu.be/UGFOjhW-gR0

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 Post subject: Re: Bob Dylan: Tempest
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theplatypus wrote:
He is known for it, but loved despite of it. God bless his soul.


Just saying that everybody does it. I think people get excited about Dylan stealing because of the (completely silly) notion that he's a total original. He's a borrower and a thief. A scoundrel. He would never survive in carbonite. And I suppose originality in pop music occasionally exists in form and sonic, if we really narrow down our criteria, but the truth is the structure's too simple for any true songwriting innovation. My point earlier was that you wouldn't waste your time hopping into a Smashing Pumpkins thread or a Neil Young thread to point out a lack of originality. Why would you? But there's something weirdly fetishy about calling out Bob Dylan on the matter, and we react to that.

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