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i'm gonna say she's pretty lucky (then again I like Zito..)
..hopefully she won't dog him out in interviews when she's done with him like she did Carl Pavano...
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Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
too bad he may have peaked already as a pitcher.
too many curveballs at a young age is often a recipe for disaster.
His problem isn't his arm. He's been throwing curveballs since he was 8; he's not one of these people that threw a curve in little league/high school/college baseball and had horrible mechanics. He's perfected it. His problem is psychological.
too many curveballs at a young age is often a recipe for disaster.
His problem isn't his arm. He's been throwing curveballs since he was 8; he's not one of these people that threw a curve in little league/high school/college baseball and had horrible mechanics. He's perfected it. His problem is psychological.
Yup, he has all kinds of psychological problems trying to figure out why his fastball tops out at 88.
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Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
inadvertent imitation wrote:
Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
too bad he may have peaked already as a pitcher.
too many curveballs at a young age is often a recipe for disaster.
His problem isn't his arm. He's been throwing curveballs since he was 8; he's not one of these people that threw a curve in little league/high school/college baseball and had horrible mechanics. He's perfected it. His problem is psychological.
Yup, he has all kinds of psychological problems trying to figure out why his fastball tops out at 88.
You're seriously crazy if you don't think that psyching one's self out is one of, if not the most important obstacles faced by a pitcher.
Barry Zito is a really spiritual person, and he's a major critic on himself. He's a perfectionist. He went 23-5 with a 2.75 ERA in 2002 and has expected himself to duplicate those numbers ever since. He's put immense pressure on himself and his numbers have declined steadily.
And with a curve like his, an 88 mph fastball will do the job.
too many curveballs at a young age is often a recipe for disaster.
His problem isn't his arm. He's been throwing curveballs since he was 8; he's not one of these people that threw a curve in little league/high school/college baseball and had horrible mechanics. He's perfected it. His problem is psychological.
Yup, he has all kinds of psychological problems trying to figure out why his fastball tops out at 88.
You're seriously crazy if you don't think that psyching one's self out is one of, if not the most important obstacles faced by a pitcher.
Barry Zito is a really spiritual person, and he's a major critic on himself. He's a perfectionist. He went 23-5 with a 2.75 ERA in 2002 and has expected himself to duplicate those numbers ever since. He's put immense pressure on himself and his numbers have declined steadily.
And with a curve like his, an 88 mph fastball will do the job.
where did I say the mental aspect of baseball is not important to a pitcher?
I'm aware of Zito's "spiritual side". I'm also aware of his crazy father who may have worn out his son's arm.
I don't care how perfect your mechanics are, you shouldn't be throwing breaking balls until your muscles are fully developed.
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Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
inadvertent imitation wrote:
Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
inadvertent imitation wrote:
Ricardo Tubbs wrote:
too bad he may have peaked already as a pitcher.
too many curveballs at a young age is often a recipe for disaster.
His problem isn't his arm. He's been throwing curveballs since he was 8; he's not one of these people that threw a curve in little league/high school/college baseball and had horrible mechanics. He's perfected it. His problem is psychological.
Yup, he has all kinds of psychological problems trying to figure out why his fastball tops out at 88.
You're seriously crazy if you don't think that psyching one's self out is one of, if not the most important obstacles faced by a pitcher.
Barry Zito is a really spiritual person, and he's a major critic on himself. He's a perfectionist. He went 23-5 with a 2.75 ERA in 2002 and has expected himself to duplicate those numbers ever since. He's put immense pressure on himself and his numbers have declined steadily.
And with a curve like his, an 88 mph fastball will do the job.
where did I say the mental aspect of baseball is not important to a pitcher?
I'm aware of Zito's "spiritual side". I'm also aware of his crazy father who may have worn out his son's arm.
I don't care how perfect your mechanics are, you shouldn't be throwing breaking balls until your muscles are fully developed.
It seemed insinuated that you were basically undermining the importance of the psychological aspect of pitching. I apologize if you weren't.
I completely agree that breaking balls shouldn't be thrown until someone is fully prepared. I'm adamant about it, in fact. It makes me sick to watch the Little League World Series to see a kid throw 17 strikeouts, all with curveballs. Coaches need to take some fucking time and teach kids changeups. At that level, it's just as effective as a curve and doesn't hurt the arm nearly as much.
I remember our little league coach benching our best pitcher for throwing curves, then teaching him the circle change instead. Good times. Too bad we got our asses handed to us that day cos Justin wasn't pitching.
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