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OK so this may seem like a stupid topic but here it is anyway.
I loathe seeing a DVD player in a car driving down the street playing Sponge Bob to some kids in the back.
Whatever happened to books and music, or even looking out the window? I see this as a larger issue in the country. It's easier for the parent to pop in a movie and not have to deal with the kids than interact with them.
When I was young when you were in the car you learned patience, you read, you talked with your family. Why's that so hard nowadays?
I fear an entire generation that in fact needs constant stimulation to survive.
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gogol wrote:
OK so this may seem like a stupid topic but here it is anyway.
I loathe seeing a DVD player in a car driving down the street playing Sponge Bob to some kids in the back.
Whatever happened to books and music, or even looking out the window? I see this as a larger issue in the country. It's easier for the parent to pop in a movie and not have to deal with the kids than interact with them.
When I was young when you were in the car you learned patience, you read, you talked with your family. Why's that so hard nowadays?
I fear an entire generation that in fact needs constant stimulation to survive.
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I agree with you completely. Kids are becoming slaves to instant gratification and are becoming dependant on TV and other media. It's sad. When I have kids, there will be limits on that stuff.
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i'm all for limits. all good things in moderation and all that rot....but until you've been on a 7 hour car trip w/ 3 children under the age of 5 without the benefit of mindless entertainment, then you really shouldn't judge.
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veritas wrote:
i'm all for limits. all good things in moderation and all that rot....but until you've been on a 7 hour car trip w/ 3 children under the age of 5 without the benefit of mindless entertainment, then you really shouldn't judge.
I've been on several of those as a child. We went to Yellowstone, Colorado, Mexico, California... All of those well over 7 hours... And nobody had anything except books. It wasn't until when I was 14 years old and we took a trip to Washington State that I had mindless entertainment, and even then it wasn't 100% of the time.
Not that I want to sound like one of those "back in my day..." type of people, but I do think it is perfectly reasonable to set limits on that stuff.
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my key point seems to have been missed. i have 3 kids-aged 5, 3 1/2 and 19 months...when they are all screeming in unison, nothing preserves my sanity like a dvd player... that is not to say that i employ it on 10 min. drives to the grocery store--think of it like one of those in case of emergency -break glass situations. my kids are also read to daily, taken on cultural excursions and in general are exposed to lots of meaningful family time--but moderate, judicial use of tv-in cars or otherwise is not a bad thing.
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veritas wrote:
my key point seems to have been missed. i have 3 kids-aged 5, 3 1/2 and 19 months...when they are all screeming in unison, nothing preserves my sanity like a dvd player... that is not to say that i employ it on 10 min. drives to the grocery store--think of it like one of those in case of emergency -break glass situations. my kids are also read to daily, taken on cultural excursions and in general are exposed to lots of meaningful family time--but moderate, judicial use of tv-in cars or otherwise is not a bad thing.
I agree, and the key words are "moderate and judicial." Some entertainment is great, but when used as a replacement for meaningful discussion and general "getting to know the kids," which it often is, it can be harmful.
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I like to talk to my kids in the car. If it's just driving around town, I see no need for any such device. On long trips, it's nice to have something to keep them occupied though. We have a portable TV/VCR that we usually bring for trips longer than 4 hours.
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Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:59 am Posts: 584 Location: upstate NY
I can see it both ways. I remember many incredibly boring car trips as a child. I usually tuned out of the family and just thought about stuff. As a mother, I've had bickering children that make me want to scream (and I have on occasion). Both my kids tend to listen to their walkman during car trips, or read a book - its all avoidance behavior - the DVD player is just the newest form....
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I just hate the LCD screens mounted so that people at stop lights can see what your watching. Who the fuck cares? Why waste a grand installing monitors for the people behind you that you don't know. It's absurd.
I wouldn't have one of those installed if I had children. Music and books is enough for the road. Maybe a laptop when they get older, that can do it all...
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I just hate the LCD screens mounted so that people at stop lights can see what your watching. Who the fuck cares? Why waste a grand installing monitors for the people behind you that you don't know. It's absurd.
I wouldn't have one of those installed if I had children. Music and books is enough for the road. Maybe a laptop when they get older, that can do it all...
Anyone remember the story about people watching porn on these things and other motorists complaining?
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veritas wrote:
my key point seems to have been missed. i have 3 kids-aged 5, 3 1/2 and 19 months...when they are all screeming in unison, nothing preserves my sanity like a dvd player... that is not to say that i employ it on 10 min. drives to the grocery store--think of it like one of those in case of emergency -break glass situations. my kids are also read to daily, taken on cultural excursions and in general are exposed to lots of meaningful family time--but moderate, judicial use of tv-in cars or otherwise is not a bad thing.
I agree with you.
I'm not one that likes my children watching much tv, but if we are on a long road trip (over 5 hours), I see no harm in popping in a good movie for them to watch. We all benefit from it.
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PJDoll wrote:
IEB! wrote:
I just hate the LCD screens mounted so that people at stop lights can see what your watching. Who the fuck cares? Why waste a grand installing monitors for the people behind you that you don't know. It's absurd.
I wouldn't have one of those installed if I had children. Music and books is enough for the road. Maybe a laptop when they get older, that can do it all...
Anyone remember the story about people watching porn on these things and other motorists complaining?
I'm against letting kids watch porn on long car trips.
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