Ahmadinejad: Israel a 'rotten, dried tree'
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Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad delivers a speech in Tehran in which he called Israel a "rotten, dried tree" that will be annihiliated by "one storm."
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AdvertisementIran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has called Israel a "rotten, dried tree" that will be annihilated by "one storm".

And the country's spiritual leader, Ayatollah Khamenei, accused the US of conspiring to put the entire region under Israeli control.

At the opening of a conference on supporting the Palestinians today, Ahmadinejad said Israel was a "permanent threat" to the Middle East that will "soon" be liberated, and questioned the validity of the Nazi Holocaust against Jews in World War II.

"Like it or not, the Zionist regime is heading toward annihilation," Ahmadinejad said. "The Zionist regime is a rotten, dried tree that will be eliminated by one storm," he said.

The president provoked a world outcry in October when he said Israel should be "wiped off the map." He repeated his line on the Holocaust today, saying: "If such a disaster is true, why should the people of this region pay the price? Why does the Palestinian nation have to be suppressed and have its land occupied?"

The land of Palestine, he said, referring to the British-mandated territory that includes all of Israel, Gaza and the West Bank, "will be freed soon".

"The existence of this (Israeli) regime is a permanent threat" to the Middle East, he added. "Its existence has harmed the dignity of Islamic nations."

The president spoke days after two Israeli generals spoke of the military potential of Iran's nuclear program.

The chief of Israeli military intelligence, Major General Amos Yadlin, was quoted on Wednesday as saying Iran could develop a nuclear bomb "within three years, by the end of the decade".

The day before, Ahmadinejad had announced Iran had successfully enriched uranium using a battery of 164 centrifuges -- a significant step toward the large-scale production of enriched uranium required for either fuelling nuclear reactors or making nuclear bombs.

The US, France and Israel accuse Iran of using a civilian nuclear program to secretly build an atomic bomb. Iran denies this, saying its program is confined to generating electricity.

The security council has given Iran until April 28 to cease enrichment. But Iran has rejected the demand.

In his speech, Khamenei accused the US of conspiring against his country, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon in order to place the entire region under Israeli control.

"The plots by the American government against Iran, Iraq, Syria and Lebanon aimed at governing the Middle East with the control of the Zionist regime will not succeed," Iran's all-powerful leader said.

"If, by accident, the American government saw reason, it would respect the wish of the Iraqi people to form its government, respect the Palestinian government, free the prisoners of Guantanamo and Abu Ghraib, cease the conspiracy, (and) not create tension in the Persian Gulf region," he said.

The supreme leader also issued a thinly veiled appeal for Muslim countries to help the Hamas-led Palestinian government following a decision by the US and EU to suspend aid.

"The Islamic world cannot remain indifferent and silent to tyranny," he asserted.

"Your martyrs are our martyrs; your pain is our pain," he said of the Palestinians. "Islamic nations have the duty to help you in every possible way, and help you along this blessed path."

The three-day conference on Palestine is being attended by officials of Hamas, the ruling party in the Palestinian territories.

Iran has previously said it will give money to the Palestinian Authority to make up for the withdrawal of donations by Western nations who object to Hamas' refusal to recognise Israel and renounce violence. But no figure has been published.

Agencies

I don't get it. What's this have to do with Germany?

here another article today

Iran to US: You can start war but you won't finish it
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AdvertisementIn one of Iran's boldest challenges yet to the US, the Islamic regime said today it could defeat any American military action over its controversial nuclear drive.

"You can start a war, but it won't be you who finishes it," said General Yahya Rahim Safavi, the head of the Revolutionary Guards and among the regime's most powerful figures.

"The Americans know better than anyone that their troops in the region and in Iraq are vulnerable. I would advise them not to commit such a strategic error," he told reporters on the sidelines of a pro-Palestinian conference in Teheran.

The US accuses Iran of using an atomic energy drive as a mask for weapons development. Last weekend US news reports said President George W Bush's administration was refining plans for preventive strikes on Iran's nuclear facilities.

"I would advise them to first get out of their quagmire in Iraq before getting into an even bigger one," General Safavi said with a grin.

"We have American forces in the region under total surveillance. For the past two years, we have been ready for any scenario, whether sanctions or an attack."

Iran announced this week it had successfully enriched uranium to make nuclear fuel, despite a UN Security Council demand for the sensitive work to be halted by April 28.

The Islamic regime says it wants only to generate atomic energy, but enrichment can be extended to make the fissile core of a nuclear warhead -- something the US is convinced that "axis of evil" member Iran wants to acquire.

At a Friday prayer sermon in Teheran, senior cleric Ayatollah Ahmad Janati branded the US a "decaying power" lacking the "stamina" to block Iran's ambitions.

And President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad told AFP a US push for tough UN sanctions was of "no importance".

"She is free to say whatever she wants," Ahmadinejad replied when asked to respond to comments by US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice highlighting part of the UN charter that provides for sanctions backed up by the threat of military action.

"We give no importance to her comments," he said with a broad smile.

Rice said yesterday that faced with Iran's intransigence, the US "will look at the full range of options available to the United Nations".

"There is no doubt that Iran continues to defy the will of the international community," Rice said, after Iran also dismissed a personal appeal from the UN atomic watchdog chief Mohamed ElBaradei.

The International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) chief must give a report at the end of the month on Iranian compliance with the security council demand.

In Teheran, he said Iran's activities were "still hazy and not very clear" after three years of investigations.

AFP

1 everything jerusalem is the holy city,both Islam & the catholic church want that city.
2 Europe needs oil off iran.Iran knows this to.
Their the 2 main ones & Iran is just pissing the west off big time, its gonna get a lot worse.
3Their is no way peace talks will resolve this.The united nations are a fruad.



I said a few weeks ago sometime in the future i dont when but it will definately happen, that fighting will erupt in Jerusalam, Hamas backed Iran are going to do this deed their gonna fight for jerusalem & holy places like the temple mount.

You can see in these comments that irans mad man has these ideas.
He hates Israel just like hitler hated the jews ( history is repeating itself again.

Another player also wants Jerusalem the CATHOLIC CHURCH IT HAS NEVER HIDDEN ITS DESIRE TO RUN THEIR OFFICE FROM JERUSALEM.

I believe America relationship with isreal will fade, i think America is thinking is it all worth it, to keep sticking up for Israel.

America dont have the will to defeat radial islam, economically their in a terrible positions same with their resources, their at breaking point.

Israel is weak their will is broken their just giving their land away & hamas & iran know that .
Once fighting breaks out i think they will look to German led EU but their counterfeit peacemakers, American cant help them their heading for economic armageddon.Thats why i think Israel will look to Germany but Germany are evil & thier gonna keep going once it had defeated Iran, German will soon be led by an evil man who have a close link with the cathoilic church remember pope benedict is German.

And somehow it all led back to Germany, damn, color me shocked.

I think Nick and/or Eli should create a seperate forum for this under N&D.

i never said it related to Germany i got asked a question from B & gave my view.

I bought up an article about Irans strong stance & thier view on Israel. And Irans president saying they will take back the land from Israel.
I said a couple of weeks ago Iran & Hamas will try to take Jerusalem & in this article he is talking about freeing jerusalem for Islam.

Congradulations. We finally agree on something.

I think Iran's headed for some precision laser-guided bomb strikes in the near future.

The point of the UN, as far as I can tell is to get everyone involved so we can best solve international disputes. The problem with this, is once you get everyone involved, you have to give them chairmanships on all the councils and whatnot, and then you have countries with terrible human rights records running things. And then of course there's the Security Council, where China and Russia block everything the US and the West try to do, seemingly just because then can. In all fairness, sometimes these proposals by the US threaten China's strategic interests, and having nukes and being on the council are the only things that give Russia any semblance of significance these days. Back to my point: I don't see any other way of having truley internation discussion than the UN. Its either try to resolve things through this imperfect organization or impose our definition of justice on the rest of the world. Do you have any alternatives?

Sharia

china & russia only block America because they have big financial trade deals with Iran.Its the only reason.

Their is no way talk can bring peace with Iran.He wants a war & he is gonna get one.

http://forums.theskyiscrape.com/vie ... hp?t=38074

I'm just tapping on my keyboard waiting for the UN to become viable. Tap tap tappity tap tap. I do not want the United State to go to war with Iran, but if the UN does not exercise any sort of..... I mean come on, if the world is not willing to standup in this sort of situation, what are we as people? It shouldn't take a straight up attack for the world community to attack this sort of ideology. Give them another chance, give them another dozen I guess. But there is right and wrong, and there is a point where this planet of humans should join up and find this just generally fucked up and unacceptable.

an interesting article from the bbc today.

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Pope calls for end to Iran crisis

The Pope marks Easter Sunday on his 79th birthday
Pope Benedict XVI has called for a negotiated solution to the Iran nuclear crisis, in his traditional Easter message in St Peter's Square in Rome.
"May an honourable solution be found for all parties, through honest and serious negotiations," he said.

He also affirmed Israel's "just right to exist in peace" while calling on the international community to help the Palestinians move towards statehood.

It is Pope Benedict XVI's first Easter as pontiff.

His Easter message - "Urbi et Orbi" - was broadcast live on television to more than 50 countries, while about 100,000 people gathered in the square.

'Peaceful co-existence'

Speaking on Iraq, the Pope called for peace to "finally prevail over the tragic violence that continues mercilessly to claim victims".




In pictures: Easter Sunday
He also prayed that those "caught up in the conflict in the Holy Land may find peace, and I invite all to patient and persevering dialogue, so as to remove both ancient and new obstacles".

In an apparent allusion to Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's recent threats against Israel, Pope Benedict defended Israel's right to exist.

But he said it was also important for the Palestinian people to have a "state that is truly their own".

The pontiff also prayed that leaders and international organisations would strengthen their will to "achieve peaceful co-existence among different races, cultures and religions".

Addressing the humanitarian crisis in Sudan's Darfur region, the Pope prayed for the spirit of Christ to bring relief to people who were "living in a dramatic humanitarian situation that is no longer sustainable".

Better living conditions were also needed for millions of people in Latin America, he said.

Cheers went up among the crowd when the Pope prayed for "harmony" in Italy, an allusion to disputes over the outcome of the recent general election.

Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi has refused to concede defeat to opposition leader Romano Prodi, who was declared the provisional winner on Tuesday.

The pope prayed Italian leaders would be strengthened in a "keen desire to reach the objectives of harmony and authentic development, for the good of all".


i dont care what anyone says the pope has ideas with Jerusalam.I get heckled heaps but a church & state of europe leaders will take control of Europe & destroy Iran

I'm still trying to figure out how a dry tree can rot.

Me: Ahmadinejad a "rotten, dried, swine-fucker"

another intersting article on pope benedict or cardinal rottweeler as this article says., i dont trust him..
Pope says we're in Satan's grip
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April 16, 2006

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AdvertisementPOPE Benedict has warned that the world is in the grip of Satan as he prayed for mankind to open its eyes to the "filth around us".

At a Good Friday ceremony recreating the passage of Jesus Christ to the Crucifixion, Benedict XVI lashed out at man's "decadent narcissism".

The Good Friday service, held at the Colosseum, showed the 14 stages of Christ's suffering and was designed to allow worshippers to share in the agony of Jesus. The Pope himself carried the cross during two stages.

The prayers, written by Archbishop Angelo Comastri, the Vatican City's vicar-general, were approved by the Pope, and reflect his conservative outlook.

"Surely God is deeply pained by the attack on the family," the Pope said. "Today we seem to be witnessing a kind of anti-Genesis, a counter-plan, a diabolical pride aimed at eliminating the family."

He also voiced fears about genetic modification, and said it was "insane arrogance" to play with the "grammar" of creation.

The meditations were designed to invoke a feeling of man's sinfulness ahead of the dark hours of Easter Saturday. Bodies are "constantly bought and sold on the streets of our cities, on our television channels, in homes that have become like streets," he said.

Accumulating wealth was "robbery" when it "prevented others from living". He deplored "the division of our world into belts of prosperity and belts of poverty". The Pope said society valued "immorality and selfishness as if they were new heights of sophistication".

The downbeat message echoed his words at the ceremony last year, when, as Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, he led the Way of the Cross in place of the ailing pope John Paul.

In those meditations, he compared the church to "a boat about to sink, taking on water on every side". He said "a Christianity which has grown weary of faith has abandoned the Lord".

Since his election almost a year ago, the Pope has surprised many with his gentle public persona.

At Friday's service, however, his ferocity was a reminder of why he was once nicknamed "Cardinal Rottweiler".

John Allen, the author of two books on Pope Benedict, asked: "Is this the real Pope Benedict re-emerging? He has projected a very different tone in the last year, but that does not mean that he has changed."

On Thursday, the Pope poured scorn on revelations within the recently published Gospel of Judas, a fourth-century text that is sympathetic to Judas Iscariot and whose crumbling fragments claim that Jesus actually instructed Judas to betray him.

Pope Benedict said Judas was "a liar — a double-crossing man who did not care about the truth".

He said Judas' act of betrayal, in return for 30 pieces of silver, contained a vital lesson.

"He was greedy. Money was more important than communion with Jesus, more important than God and his love. In this way he became hard, incapable of conversion, and threw away a spent existence."

Before he was elected pope, Cardinal Ratzinger was widely feared as the authoritarian head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, the Vatican department that used to be known as the Inquisition.

In this role, he quickly stamped on views that diverged from the official Vatican line. But Hans Kung, a Swiss theologian, who had his licence to teach revoked in 1979 because he questioned papal infallibility, said the new Pope might be able to make reforms that a more radical choice of pontiff would have found difficult.

Mr Allen said the Pope would adopt a lighter tone at an open-air Easter Mass at St Peter's today.

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i wish the people in relatively liberal nations would stop electing midget messianic retards as president.
ahmadinejad
bush
sharon

conservatism sucks ass