#1 in first week...maybe were in for a surprise, i think they can do it
-250,000..shit i read that rascal flatts sold about 800,000 first week out i think PJ can hit 250
-top out at least platinum...
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mowbs wrote:
I knwo someone has a way of getting this kind of information: How many units have their albums sold to this day?
I would need to see that info before I could make any kind of prediction.
we've got that somewhere. This is rough
ten-10 million
vs-6
vitalogy-5
no code 1.5
yield 1.5
binaural 1
riot act-500,000
It'll do 300,000 in week 1 and will go platnium. This will eventually outsell the new tool record, which will not age well.
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stip wrote:
It'll do 300,000 in week 1 and will go platnium. This will eventually outsell the new tool record, which will not age well.
hey, i can't fault your enthusiasm, but considering Riot Act sold 500k and Lateralus is currently around 2.5 million... (500k the first week vs. Riot Act's 164k)
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i dont see it hitting 1 million
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*Vitalogy holds the interesting regard that while it was released first on vinyl (on November 22, 1994, more than two weeks before its release on cd [4]), it still debuted at number 55 on the Billboard Top 200, the first vinyl record album to chart since the introduction of the compact disc format.
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Live albums and compilations
Live on Two Legs
November 24, 1998
US #15
1,000,000
Lost Dogs
November 11, 2003
US #15
250,000
Live at Benaroya Hall
July 27, 2004
US #18
168,000
Rearviewmirror
November 16, 2004
US #16
500,000
*In addition to the live albums Live on Two Legs, Live at Benaroya Hall and a myriad of live versions of studio songs spread across singles as b-sides, the band has continued their official bootlegs series released a double-disc (and sometimes triple) album of live recordings for each show of each tour since their 2000 European tour.
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Charted songs
Year
charted Title Chart Album
USA UK
Hot 100 Modern rock Mainstream rock Singles
1992 "Even Flow" 21 3 27 Ten
1992 "Alive" 18 16 16
1992 "Jeremy" 79 5 5 15
1993 "Black" 20 3
1993 "Go" 8 3 Vs.
1993 "Crazy Mary" 8 26
1994 "Yellow Ledbetter" 26 21 Lost Dogs
1994 "Daughter" 97 1 1 18 Vs.
1994 "Dissident" 3 14
1994 "Elderly Woman Behind a Counter in a Small Town" 17
1994 "Glorified G" 39
1994 "Animal" 21
1994 "Tremor Christ" 18 16 16 Vitalogy
1994 "Spin the Black Circle" 11 16 10
1995 "Not for You" 38 12 34
1995 "Immortality" 31 10
1995 "Corduroy" 13 22
1995 "Better Man" 2 1
1995 "I Got ID" 7 3 2 25 Mirror Ball (Merkin Ball EP)
1996 "Who You Are" 31 1 5 18 No Code
1996 "Red Mosquito" 37
1996 "Hail Hail" 9 9
1996 "Leaving Here" 31 24 Lost Dogs
1997 "Off He Goes" 31 34 No Code
1998 "Wishlist" 47 6 6 30 Yield
1998 "In Hiding" 13 14
1998 "Given to Fly" 21 3 1 12
1998 "Do the Evolution" 33 40
1999 "Last Kiss" 2 2 5 42 Lost Dogs
2000 "Nothing As It Seems" 49 10 3 22 Binaural
2000 "Light Years" 26 17 52
2002 "I Am Mine" 43 6 7 26 Riot Act
2003 "Save You" 29 23
2003 "Love Boat Captain"
2006 "World Wide Suicide" 41 1 2 Pearl Jam
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solace wrote:
stip wrote:
It'll do 300,000 in week 1 and will go platnium. This will eventually outsell the new tool record, which will not age well.
hey, i can't fault your enthusiasm, but considering Riot Act sold 500k and Lateralus is currently around 2.5 million... (500k the first week vs. Riot Act's 164k)
I think the new tool album will outsell it in week 1 but I don't think they could have written a less accessible album if they tried. I can't picture this having staying power. What can they follow up vicarious (which is a great song) with?
The new PJ record is very radio friendly and has much stronger buzz than the last two records. Really than the last 4.
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*Vitalogy holds the interesting regard that while it was released first on vinyl (on November 22, 1994, more than two weeks before its release on cd [4]), it still debuted at number 55 on the Billboard Top 200, the first vinyl record album to chart since the introduction of the compact disc format.
[edit] Live albums and compilations
Live on Two Legs
November 24, 1998 US #15 1,000,000
Lost Dogs
November 11, 2003 US #15 250,000
Live at Benaroya Hall
July 27, 2004 US #18 168,000
Rearviewmirror
November 16, 2004 US #16 500,000
*In addition to the live albums Live on Two Legs, Live at Benaroya Hall and a myriad of live versions of studio songs spread across singles as b-sides, the band has continued their official bootlegs series released a double-disc (and sometimes triple) album of live recordings for each show of each tour since their 2000 European tour.
[edit] Charted songs Year charted Title Chart Album USA UK Hot 100 Modern rock Mainstream rock Singles 1992 "Even Flow" 21 3 27 Ten 1992 "Alive" 18 16 16 1992 "Jeremy" 79 5 5 15 1993 "Black" 20 3 1993 "Go" 8 3 Vs. 1993 "Crazy Mary" 8 26 1994 "Yellow Ledbetter" 26 21 Lost Dogs 1994 "Daughter" 97 1 1 18 Vs. 1994 "Dissident" 3 14 1994 "Elderly Woman Behind a Counter in a Small Town" 17 1994 "Glorified G" 39 1994 "Animal" 21 1994 "Tremor Christ" 18 16 16 Vitalogy 1994 "Spin the Black Circle" 11 16 10 1995 "Not for You" 38 12 34 1995 "Immortality" 31 10 1995 "Corduroy" 13 22 1995 "Better Man" 2 1 1995 "I Got ID" 7 3 2 25 Mirror Ball (Merkin Ball EP) 1996 "Who You Are" 31 1 5 18 No Code 1996 "Red Mosquito" 37 1996 "Hail Hail" 9 9 1996 "Leaving Here" 31 24 Lost Dogs 1997 "Off He Goes" 31 34 No Code 1998 "Wishlist" 47 6 6 30 Yield 1998 "In Hiding" 13 14 1998 "Given to Fly" 21 3 1 12 1998 "Do the Evolution" 33 40 1999 "Last Kiss" 2 2 5 42 Lost Dogs 2000 "Nothing As It Seems" 49 10 3 22 Binaural 2000 "Light Years" 26 17 52 2002 "I Am Mine" 43 6 7 26 Riot Act 2003 "Save You" 29 23 2003 "Love Boat Captain" 2006 "World Wide Suicide" 41 1 2 Pearl Jam
That is from Wikipedia and it is very dated. Ten has sold over 12 million copies.
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stip wrote:
I think the new tool album will outsell it in week 1 but I don't think they could have written a less accessible album if they tried. I can't picture this having staying power. What can they follow up vicarious (which is a great song) with?
The new PJ record is very radio friendly and has much stronger buzz than the last two records. Really than the last 4.
the buzz surrounding this new album is definitely much higher than the last 2, no doubt, but not on the level of Yield. if you were around during that time, the buzz on the net and in print media was just INSANE, due to people feeling let down w/ No Code. it sold a ton right out of the gate. they did as much if not more promo for that record than they have so far for this one (granted no SNL). there were interviews and covers of tons of magazines in '98, not to mention the whole Yield leak thing too that gained the album a ton of notoriety.
Lateralus wasn't accessible either save for 2-3 songs, and still sold 2.5 mill, this one will at least sel 1.5-2 million, i guarantee it, Tool has TONS of diehards. i don't even think Vicarious is all that great of a song, but you're right, it's the most radio friendly.
I think the new tool album will outsell it in week 1 but I don't think they could have written a less accessible album if they tried. I can't picture this having staying power. What can they follow up vicarious (which is a great song) with?
The new PJ record is very radio friendly and has much stronger buzz than the last two records. Really than the last 4.
the buzz surrounding this new album is definitely much higher than the last 2, no doubt, but not on the level of Yield. if you were around during that time, the buzz on the net and in print media was just INSANE, due to people feeling let down w/ No Code. it sold a ton right out of the gate. they did as much if not more promo for that record than they have so far for this one (granted no SNL). there were interviews and covers of tons of magazines in '98, not to mention the whole Yield leak thing too that gained the album a ton of notoriety.
Lateralus wasn't accessible either save for 2-3 songs, and still sold 2.5 mill, this one will at least sel 1.5-2 million, i guarantee it, Tool has TONS of diehards. i don't even think Vicarious is all that great of a song, but you're right, it's the most radio friendly.
Good points about Yield promotion, but how can you think this outsells YIeld? We are in a challenging time for record companies and even popular rock albums dont go double platinum unless they are blockbusters. Case in point, Coldplay's latest has sold 3 mill in the US and the hype there was 100x this hype. This album wont even ship 1 million let alone sell it. PJ is in a category above niche but below massive mainstream.
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solace wrote:
stip wrote:
I think the new tool album will outsell it in week 1 but I don't think they could have written a less accessible album if they tried. I can't picture this having staying power. What can they follow up vicarious (which is a great song) with?
The new PJ record is very radio friendly and has much stronger buzz than the last two records. Really than the last 4.
the buzz surrounding this new album is definitely much higher than the last 2, no doubt, but not on the level of Yield. if you were around during that time, the buzz on the net and in print media was just INSANE, due to people feeling let down w/ No Code. it sold a ton right out of the gate. they did as much if not more promo for that record than they have so far for this one (granted no SNL). there were interviews and covers of tons of magazines in '98, not to mention the whole Yield leak thing too that gained the album a ton of notoriety.
Lateralus wasn't accessible either save for 2-3 songs, and still sold 2.5 mill, this one will at least sel 1.5-2 million, i guarantee it, Tool has TONS of diehards. i don't even think Vicarious is all that great of a song, but you're right, it's the most radio friendly.
this is a better album than Yield--and the buzz is not for the new album, but also about the new album, if that distinction makes sense. A lot of people felt let down by yield when it wasn't ten.
Lateralus sold 2.5 million largely because A-I think it's a better record than the new tool one and B-they were still riding the aenima wave. Lateralus is a good record and did well, and people are excited for tool but this new record is not the long awaited follow up to one of the best records of the 90's. It's the long awaited follow up to a good record, and a somewhat disappointing follow up becuase it's not as good as it.
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