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http://www.grassleyworks.com/grassley/w ... 90-100604A

President Bush visited the swing state of Iowa on Monday to sign the Working Families Tax Relief Act of 2004, which he said would mean lower tax bills for 94 million Americans.

"It comes at just the right time for America. Some of the provisions were set to expire at the end of 2004 ..." he said. "That would have been a setback for hardworking families of America and a setback for our economy."

Bush introduced Mike and Sharla Hintz, a couple from Clive, whom he said benefited from his tax plan.

Last year, because of the enhanced the child tax credit, they received an extra $1,600 in their tax refund, Bush said. With other tax cuts in the bill, they saved $2,800 on their income taxes.

They used the money to buy a wood-burning stove to more efficiently heat their home, made some home improvements and went on a vacation to Minnesota, the president said.

"Next year, maybe they'll want to come to Texas," Bush quipped.

Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, said the tax cuts also gave him additional money to use for health care.

He said he supports Bush's values.

"The American people are starting to see what kind of leader President Bush is. People know where he stands," he said.

"Where we are in this world, with not just the war on terror, but with the war with our culture that's going on, I think we need a man that is going to be in the White House like President Bush, that's going to stand by what he believes.

"Everybody that I've talked to are saying that things are going to start going his way," Hintz said.


and:

http://www.theiowachannel.com/news/3976822/detail.html

Pastor Fired Over Sexual Exploitation Charges
First Assembly Of God Church Fires Reverend

POSTED: 6:49 am CST December 7, 2004
UPDATED: 11:40 am CST December 7, 2004

DES MOINES, Iowa -- A Des Moines youth pastor is charged with sexual exploitation by a counselor.

KCCI learned that the married father of four recently turned himself in to Johnston police.

Rev. Mike Hintz was fired from the First Assembly of God Church, located at 2725 Merle Hay Road, on Oct. 30. Hintz was the youth pastor there for three years.

Police said he started an affair with a 17-year-old woman in the church youth group this spring.

Church officials fired Hintz immediately after hearing the allegations.

"They did acknowledge with their congregation that Mr. Hintz had made apparently some admissions to his inappropriate activity, and they took a proactive approach and immediately terminated him from his position," Johnston police Sgt. Lynn Aswegan said.

Neither Hintz nor his attorney returned KCCI's calls.

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Before the election, I was listening to a radio interview with a woman, specifically a mother in Ohio. In the interview, she said she didn't like how the war was going and that John Kerry was more likely to get less Americans killed. However, she was voting for George Bush because of his family values. When asked what her family values were, she said that she was against abortion and gay marriage. The interviewer was like, "Is that all? What are your other family values?" And she just kept saying that marriage is between a man and a woman, and that Jesus wouldn't want abortions.

That's why Bush won.

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 Post subject: Re: Values? What Values?
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http://www.grassleyworks.com/grassley/wrapper.jsp?PID=4090-69&CID=4090-100604A

President Bush visited the swing state of Iowa on Monday to sign the Working Families Tax Relief Act of 2004, which he said would mean lower tax bills for 94 million Americans.

"It comes at just the right time for America. Some of the provisions were set to expire at the end of 2004 ..." he said. "That would have been a setback for hardworking families of America and a setback for our economy."

Bush introduced Mike and Sharla Hintz, a couple from Clive, whom he said benefited from his tax plan.

Last year, because of the enhanced the child tax credit, they received an extra $1,600 in their tax refund, Bush said. With other tax cuts in the bill, they saved $2,800 on their income taxes.

They used the money to buy a wood-burning stove to more efficiently heat their home, made some home improvements and went on a vacation to Minnesota, the president said.

"Next year, maybe they'll want to come to Texas," Bush quipped.

Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, said the tax cuts also gave him additional money to use for health care.

He said he supports Bush's values.

"The American people are starting to see what kind of leader President Bush is. People know where he stands," he said.

"Where we are in this world, with not just the war on terror, but with the war with our culture that's going on, I think we need a man that is going to be in the White House like President Bush, that's going to stand by what he believes.

"Everybody that I've talked to are saying that things are going to start going his way," Hintz said.


and:

http://www.theiowachannel.com/news/3976822/detail.html

Pastor Fired Over Sexual Exploitation Charges
First Assembly Of God Church Fires Reverend

POSTED: 6:49 am CST December 7, 2004
UPDATED: 11:40 am CST December 7, 2004

DES MOINES, Iowa -- A Des Moines youth pastor is charged with sexual exploitation by a counselor.

KCCI learned that the married father of four recently turned himself in to Johnston police.

Rev. Mike Hintz was fired from the First Assembly of God Church, located at 2725 Merle Hay Road, on Oct. 30. Hintz was the youth pastor there for three years.

Police said he started an affair with a 17-year-old woman in the church youth group this spring.

Church officials fired Hintz immediately after hearing the allegations.

"They did acknowledge with their congregation that Mr. Hintz had made apparently some admissions to his inappropriate activity, and they took a proactive approach and immediately terminated him from his position," Johnston police Sgt. Lynn Aswegan said.

Neither Hintz nor his attorney returned KCCI's calls.

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Edited.

:oops: I didn't realize both articles were about the same guy.


Last edited by pjam81373 on Wed Dec 08, 2004 5:39 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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this guy obviously doesnt know what morals are.


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62strat wrote:
this guy obviously doesnt know what morals are.


Exactly. Morals are about not getting caught. :arrow:


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 Post subject: Re: Values? What Values?
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glorified_version wrote:
http://www.grassleyworks.com/grassley/wrapper.jsp?PID=4090-69&CID=4090-100604A

President Bush visited the swing state of Iowa on Monday to sign the Working Families Tax Relief Act of 2004, which he said would mean lower tax bills for 94 million Americans.

"It comes at just the right time for America. Some of the provisions were set to expire at the end of 2004 ..." he said. "That would have been a setback for hardworking families of America and a setback for our economy."

Bush introduced Mike and Sharla Hintz, a couple from Clive, whom he said benefited from his tax plan.

Last year, because of the enhanced the child tax credit, they received an extra $1,600 in their tax refund, Bush said. With other tax cuts in the bill, they saved $2,800 on their income taxes.

They used the money to buy a wood-burning stove to more efficiently heat their home, made some home improvements and went on a vacation to Minnesota, the president said.

"Next year, maybe they'll want to come to Texas," Bush quipped.

Mike Hintz, a First Assembly of God youth pastor, said the tax cuts also gave him additional money to use for health care.

He said he supports Bush's values.

"The American people are starting to see what kind of leader President Bush is. People know where he stands," he said.

"Where we are in this world, with not just the war on terror, but with the war with our culture that's going on, I think we need a man that is going to be in the White House like President Bush, that's going to stand by what he believes.

"Everybody that I've talked to are saying that things are going to start going his way," Hintz said.


and:

http://www.theiowachannel.com/news/3976822/detail.html

Pastor Fired Over Sexual Exploitation Charges
First Assembly Of God Church Fires Reverend

POSTED: 6:49 am CST December 7, 2004
UPDATED: 11:40 am CST December 7, 2004

DES MOINES, Iowa -- A Des Moines youth pastor is charged with sexual exploitation by a counselor.

KCCI learned that the married father of four recently turned himself in to Johnston police.

Rev. Mike Hintz was fired from the First Assembly of God Church, located at 2725 Merle Hay Road, on Oct. 30. Hintz was the youth pastor there for three years.

Police said he started an affair with a 17-year-old woman in the church youth group this spring.

Church officials fired Hintz immediately after hearing the allegations.

"They did acknowledge with their congregation that Mr. Hintz had made apparently some admissions to his inappropriate activity, and they took a proactive approach and immediately terminated him from his position," Johnston police Sgt. Lynn Aswegan said.

Neither Hintz nor his attorney returned KCCI's calls.

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This is just precious, thanks for the laugh, it's been a hectic day.

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What a fucking jackass.

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I love it, thanks for posting these stories. Priceless.


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I'm sure he's very sorry for what he's done. He succumbed to the temptation of the devil and now through Jesus, sees the error of his ways.

I really think conservatives are much more dirrty than liberals, they just pretend they're high and mighty.

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That story needs no comment...its humor stands on its own. :lol:

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oh geez...i didn't see the correllation at first....i didn't notice it was the same guy....

i'm.....speechless..... :shock:

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What...are you suggesting that Bush's morale values involve sexual exploitation of children?

This absolutely nothing to do with Bush...


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LittleWing wrote:
What...are you suggesting that Bush's morale values involve sexual exploitation of children?

This absolutely nothing to do with Bush...


In all fairness, I don't think he was necessarily going for that. I think he is just pointing out how much of a hyporcite this particular person turned out to be, and how ironic the situation was. Anyone should be able to chuckle at the irony in this situation, from hardline republican to liberal.

I don't think it was an attack on Bush, just an observation about one "moral" person who turned out not to be so saintly.

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If this story had absolutely nothing to do with George Bush. If this guy said, "I have the same values as Hillary Clinton," this thread would not exist.


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:roll:
You'll say any crazy old thing just for the sake of disagreeing, won't you?
This doesn't really need any further explanation, and if you don't get the point after tsunami's post, then I think you're really trying not to.


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Skywalker wrote:
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You'll say any crazy old thing just for the sake of disagreeing, won't you?
This doesn't really need any further explanation, and if you don't get the point after tsunami's post, then I think you're really trying not to.

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Skywalker wrote:
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You'll say any crazy old thing just for the sake of disagreeing, won't you?
This doesn't really need any further explanation, and if you don't get the point after tsunami's post, then I think you're really trying not to.


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LittleWing wrote:
If this story had absolutely nothing to do with George Bush. If this guy said, "I have the same values as Hillary Clinton," this thread would not exist.


Yea I was having a little laugh at a Bush lovers expense. Big deal. Honestly, I could care less that a married man was busted for messing around with a 17 year old girl. Okay, thats wrong obviously, but it happens all the time.

I just find it ironic how concerned so many Americans are with duality, right and wrong, etc. We are nation that is obsessed with telling other people how to live there lives. I think people need to take a step back and realize that humans are very complex beings, and complexity is good. Nothing is ever definite, and to lie to ourselves that it is, is cynical and anti-progressive.

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