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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2006 9:46 pm 
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With all of the debate surrounding the immigration laws in this country I am looking to find out how hard it really is to become an American. No, I don't mean what is the best kind of shoes to buy to jump the boarder. I mean if you are living in Mexico and decide that you want to come to America what, or how difficult, is the process to become an American Citizen legally.

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With all of the debate surrounding the immigration laws in this country I am looking to find out how hard it really is to become an American. No, I don't mean what is the best kind of shoes to buy to jump the boarder. I mean if you are living in Mexico and decide that you want to come to America what, or how difficult, is the process to become an American Citizen legally.


From looking at what my brother in law went through, it's pretty fucking difficult. I don't even think he's a citizen, but it took him months just to get a visa to live here for less than a year. It may have something to do with his country of origin (Algeria), but it is by no means a quick and easy process to get a visa, much less become a citizen. I don't know if it's as difficult for Mexican citizens, but it probably is.

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there was a good series on NPR about it, and a book or documentary coming out, i cant remember. It followed a boy into america looking for his mother. I will se if i cant find the link.


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Orpheus wrote:
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it is by no means a quick and easy process to get a visa, much less become a citizen.

I don't really see a problem with this.


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bart d. wrote:
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it is by no means a quick and easy process to get a visa, much less become a citizen.

I don't really see a problem with this.


Neither do I necessarily, just answering his question.

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Orpheus wrote:
bart d. wrote:
Orpheus wrote:
it is by no means a quick and easy process to get a visa, much less become a citizen.

I don't really see a problem with this.


Neither do I necessarily, just answering his question.

Oh. Well, um....ok then.


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It's hard for me to sympathize with these illegal immigrants. If I understood how difficult it was I might agree with them.

I live in Lake Geneva, Wisconsin and there has always been a heavy Mexican population due in part to all of the restraunts and multi-million dollar lake front estates with acres and acres of landscape. Well since all this song and dance started up in the last couple months they are starting to crack down. There have been all sorts of busts going on. We have this little Mexican corner-store where you can buy all the authentic Mexican stuffs that the grocery store doesn't carry. Well last week they had an officer sitting on a stool at the door carding everyone that walked in. If you didn't pass they took you up the block and they had 2 or 3 Greyhound style busses but they were painted straight white. I could hardly imagine what it would be like to be walking into the store to buy some chorizo and you are taken from your family and job 2000 miles back to the place you escaped from. That would be totally insane.

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Athletic Supporter wrote:
http://www.uscitizenship.info/ins-citizenship-process.htm


Follow These Easy Steps to Become a U.S. citizen!


¿Hay un página en español? ;)


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Green Habit wrote:
Athletic Supporter wrote:
http://www.uscitizenship.info/ins-citizenship-process.htm


Follow These Easy Steps to Become a U.S. citizen!


¿Hay un página en español? ;)


you hire one of the reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally hot interpreters that I see everyday

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Sounds about right.

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Sure, it can be tough. There's a LOT that needs to be done, and a LOT of people trying to get it done at the same time. Those of us who were born here, we HAVE documentation - SS#s, birth certificates, etc. We need to know you're not some random criminal, and are going to (hopefully) be a useful member to our society.
It's not like we're the only country that goes through this. One of our mom's at the daycare was English, and she was jumping through all kinds of hoops to just let her infant daughter visit England.

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so hard that a cat couldnt scratch it...


oh wait, i should read the thread

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I heard a politician today say that some people are waiting up to 10 years. And he was arguing for deporting all 12 million illegals indiscriminantly with no amnesty at all, so I don't think he was sypathetic or biased toward immigrants.

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I heard a politician today say that some people are waiting up to 10 years. And he was arguing for deporting all 12 million illegals indiscriminantly with no amnesty at all, so I don't think he was sypathetic or biased toward immigrants.


http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/services/natz/faq.htm#q13
13. How long will it take to become naturalized?

The time it takes to be naturalized varies from one local office to another. In 1997, in many places, it took over 2 years to process an application. USCIS continues to improve the naturalization process. As of October 2001, USCIS reported that it takes, on average, between 6 and 9 months to become naturalized.

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B wrote:
I heard a politician today say that some people are waiting up to 10 years. And he was arguing for deporting all 12 million illegals indiscriminantly with no amnesty at all, so I don't think he was sypathetic or biased toward immigrants.


http://www.uscis.gov/graphics/services/natz/faq.htm#q13
13. How long will it take to become naturalized?

The time it takes to be naturalized varies from one local office to another. In 1997, in many places, it took over 2 years to process an application. USCIS continues to improve the naturalization process. As of October 2001, USCIS reported that it takes, on average, between 6 and 9 months to become naturalized.


That doesn't disprove my statement.

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