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 Post subject: Wow! There are a lot of Americans in Jail!!!
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1 in 136 U.S. Residents Behind Bars
By ELIZABETH WHITE, Associated Press Writer
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WASHINGTON - Prisons and jails added more than 1,000 inmates each week for a year, putting almost 2.2 million people, or one in every 136 U.S. residents, behind bars by last summer.

The total on June 30, 2005, was 56,428 more than at the same time in 2004, the government reported Sunday. That 2.6 percent increase from mid-2004 to mid-2005 translates into a weekly rise of 1,085 inmates.

Of particular note was the gain of 33,539 inmates in jails, the largest increase since 1997, researcher Allen J. Beck said. That was a 4.7 percent growth rate, compared with a 1.6 percent increase in people held in state and federal prisons.

Prisons accounted for about two-thirds of all inmates, or 1.4 million, while the other third, nearly 750,000, were in local jails, according to the Bureau of Justice Statistics.

Beck, the bureau's chief of corrections statistics, said the increase in the number of people in the 3,365 local jails is due partly to their changing role. Jails often hold inmates for state or federal systems, as well as people who have yet to begin serving a sentence.

"The jail population is increasingly unconvicted," Beck said. "Judges are perhaps more reluctant to release people pretrial."

The report by the Justice Department agency found that 62 percent of people in jails have not been convicted, meaning many of them are awaiting trial.

Overall, 738 people were locked up for every 100,000 residents, compared with a rate of 725 at mid-2004. The states with the highest rates were Louisiana and Georgia, with more than 1 percent of their populations in prison or jail. Rounding out the top five were Texas, Mississippi and Oklahoma.

The states with the lowest rates were Maine, Minnesota, Rhode Island, Vermont and New Hampshire.

Men were 10 times to 11 times more likely than women to be in prison or jail, but the number of women behind bars was growing at a faster rate, said Paige M. Harrison, the report's other author.

The racial makeup of inmates changed little in recent years, Beck said. In the 25-29 age group, an estimated 11.9 percent of black men were in prison or jails, compared with 3.9 percent of Hispanic males and 1.7 percent of white males.

Marc Mauer, executive director of The Sentencing Project, which supports alternatives to prison, said the incarceration rates for blacks were troubling.

"It's not a sign of a healthy community when we've come to use incarceration at such rates," he said.

Mauer also criticized sentencing guidelines, which he said remove judges' discretion, and said arrests for drug and parole violations swell prisons.

"If we want to see the prison population reduced, we need a much more comprehensive approach to sentencing and drug policy," he said.


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I would how much that stat would inprove if we decrimilized pot posession. :?

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I would how much that stat would inprove if we decrimilized pot posession. :?


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Mauer also criticized sentencing guidelines, which he said remove judges' discretion


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and said arrests for drug and parole violations swell prisons.


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I would how much that stat would inprove if we decrimilized pot posession. :?


Not very much, considering the majority of people arrested for pot are for simple posession, and they don't get put away for a year. If you get put away for more than a year because of pot, you're a pretty serious drug dealer.

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LittleWing wrote:
broken_iris wrote:
I would how much that stat would inprove if we decrimilized pot posession. :?


Not very much, considering the majority of people arrested for pot are for simple posession, and they don't get put away for a year. If you get put away for more than a year because of pot, you're a pretty serious drug dealer.



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LittleWing wrote:
broken_iris wrote:
I would how much that stat would inprove if we decrimilized pot posession. :?


Not very much, considering the majority of people arrested for pot are for simple posession, and they don't get put away for a year. If you get put away for more than a year because of pot, you're a pretty serious drug dealer.


You might also notice that the article has four paragraphs about how the problem is affecting jails, which by definition, hold inmates that are sentenced to less than one year (prisons hold inmates that are sentenced to more than one year).

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LittleWing wrote:
broken_iris wrote:
I would how much that stat would inprove if we decrimilized pot posession. :?


Not very much, considering the majority of people arrested for pot are for simple posession, and they don't get put away for a year. If you get put away for more than a year because of pot, you're a pretty serious drug dealer.


You might also notice that the article has four paragraphs about how the problem is affecting jails, which by definition, hold inmates that are sentenced to less than one year (prisons hold inmates that are sentenced to more than one year).


Word B.

I do believe that people arrested for pot possession multiple times go to "prison" and not "jail". I couln't find good numbers (google sucks) but the closest estimates where about 10% of the federal prison population being marijuana offenses.

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broken_iris wrote:
B wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
broken_iris wrote:
I would how much that stat would inprove if we decrimilized pot posession. :?


Not very much, considering the majority of people arrested for pot are for simple posession, and they don't get put away for a year. If you get put away for more than a year because of pot, you're a pretty serious drug dealer.


You might also notice that the article has four paragraphs about how the problem is affecting jails, which by definition, hold inmates that are sentenced to less than one year (prisons hold inmates that are sentenced to more than one year).


Word B.

I do believe that people arrested for pot possession multiple times go to "prison" and not "jail". I couln't find good numbers (google sucks) but the closest estimates where about 10% of the federal prison population being marijuana offenses.


Google does seem to have an aversion to anything academic related. :?


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broken_iris wrote:
B wrote:
LittleWing wrote:
broken_iris wrote:
I would how much that stat would inprove if we decrimilized pot posession. :?


Not very much, considering the majority of people arrested for pot are for simple posession, and they don't get put away for a year. If you get put away for more than a year because of pot, you're a pretty serious drug dealer.


You might also notice that the article has four paragraphs about how the problem is affecting jails, which by definition, hold inmates that are sentenced to less than one year (prisons hold inmates that are sentenced to more than one year).


Word B.

I do believe that people arrested for pot possession multiple times go to "prison" and not "jail". I couln't find good numbers (google sucks) but the closest estimates where about 10% of the federal prison population being marijuana offenses.


It's hard to find. I would imagine most of those people also have a history of violent felonies. And yes B, I saw the last one, but BI was asking for one number, which I figured was the main one, in the first paragraph. Didn't really think splicing each key statistic was really necessary.

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 Post subject: Re: Wow! There are a lot of Americans in Jail!!!
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1 in 100 Americans Are Behind Bars, Study Says

For the first time in the nation’s history, more than one in 100 American adults is behind bars, according to a new report.

Nationwide, the prison population grew by 25,000 last year, bringing it to almost 1.6 million. Another 723,000 people are in local jails. The number of American adults is about 230 million, meaning that one in every 99.1 adults is behind bars.

Incarceration rates are even higher for some groups. One in 36 Hispanic adults is behind bars, based on Justice Department figures for 2006. One in 15 black adults is, too, as is one in nine black men between the ages of 20 and 34.

The report, from the Pew Center on the States, also found that only one in 355 white women between the ages of 35 and 39 is behind bars, but that one in 100 black women is.

The report’s methodology differed from that used by the Justice Department, which calculates the incarceration rate by using the total population rather than the adult population as the denominator. Using the department’s methodology, about one in 130 Americans is behind bars.

Either way, said Susan Urahn, the center’s managing director, “we aren’t really getting the return in public safety from this level of incarceration.”

“We tend to be a country in which incarceration is an easy response to crime,” Ms. Urahn continued. “Being tough on crime is an easy position to take, particularly if you have the money. And we did have the money in the ’80s and ’90s.”

Now, with fewer resources available to the states, the report said, “prison costs are blowing a hole in state budgets.” On average, states spend almost 7 percent on their budgets on corrections, trailing only healthcare, education and transportation.

In 2007, according to the National Association of State Budgeting Officers, states spent $44 billion in tax dollars on corrections. That is up from $10.6 billion in 1987, a 127 increase once adjusted for inflation. With money from bond issues and from the federal government included, total state spending on corrections last year was $49 billion. By 2011, the report said, states are on track to spend an additional $25 billion.

It cost an average of $23,876 to imprison someone in 2005, the most recent year for which data is available. But state spending varies widely, from $45,000 a year for each inmate in Rhode Island to just $13,000 in Louisiana.

The cost of medical care is growing by 10 percent annually, the report said, a rate that will accelerate as the prison population ages.

About one in nine state government employees works in corrections, and some states are finding it hard to fill those jobs. California spent more than $500 million on overtime alone in 2006.

The number of prisoners in California dropped by 4,000 last year, making Texas’s prison system the nation’s largest, at about 172,000 inmates. But the Texas legislature approved broad changes to the state’s corrections system, including expansions of drug treatment programs and drug courts and revisions to parole practices.

“Our violent offenders, we lock them up for a very long time — rapists, murderers, child molestors,” said John Whitmire, a Democratic state senator from Houston and the chairman of the state senate’s criminal justice committee. “The problem was that we weren’t smart about nonviolent offenders. The legislature finally caught up with the public.”

He gave an example.

“We have 5,500 D.W.I offenders in prison,” he said, including people caught driving under the influence who had not been in an accident. “They’re in the general population. As serious as drinking and driving is, we should segregate them and give them treatment.”

The Pew report recommended diverting nonviolent offenders away from prison and using punishments short of reincarceration for minor or technical violations of probation or parole. It also urged states to consider earlier release of some prisoners.

Before the recent changes in Texas, Mr. Whitmire said, “we were recycling nonviolent offenders.”

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Not enough...

who else should be in jail, babe?

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Not enough...

who else should be in jail, babe?

more nonviolent drug offenders!

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malice wrote:
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Not enough...

who else should be in jail, babe?

more nonviolent drug offenders!

they're pretty dangerous, you know.

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Lot's of people. Lot's of non-violent drug offenders. Lot's of sex offenders. So on and so forth.

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Not enough...

who else should be in jail, babe?



If some right wing activists had their way they would add doctors who perform and the woman who choose abortion.

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Lot's of people. Lot's of non-violent drug offenders. Lot's of sex offenders. So on and so forth.


which of the non-violent drug offenders? all of them? or what?

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malice wrote:
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Not enough...

who else should be in jail, babe?



If some right wing activists had their way they would add doctors who perform and the woman who choose abortion.

It's working well in El Salvador.

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