[color=darkred][b][b]New York got screwed during the Vote For Change Change Tour! And the end result was shit....you guys came out to see the shows and that's it! DId you vote yourselves? NO. Did you pursuade others to vote? NO.

Well, that's probably why PJ is avoided your states!

So, don't give the northeast any shit for getting any shows...we got shut out last time...so, fuck off and sign all the petitions you want. Actually, I hope at least of the southern states gets a show so that you'aaallllllll stop bitchin'![b]

Nice work of bold and colours etc. And swear words..but not really logic or anything else.

Shut up Yankee.

Your enemies-on-RM-to-post-count ratio must be astounding right now

If you can't see the logic than you're dumber than I thought. By the way, not one of your countrymen was admitted into my school this year...they're all a bunch of flakes. PJ can blind you like that.

Why do don't you just relax and do what what your whole country is used to doing, that is, sit back and let everyone else protect your ass and that retard director from lord of the rings.

BTW, when I refer to the SOUTH I'm referring to the U.S.....

I don't know what your problem is, but if you can't be civil to other members here, best that you start finding another place to post at.

I know youre refering to the South of the U.S....

And if all the intelligence that you can muster about NZ is that the director of Lord of the Rings (Peter Jackson by the way) then I dont hold out much hope for you at this school of yours. Im surprised the news of noone from over here making the cut wasnt first in the 6pm slot.
I dont think the South not getting shows is because of their voting. Ed holds John Howard in the same light as George W, but hes still touring to his country...being intelligent I dont have to tell you which one that is.

The Vote For Change tour was set up to hit those states deemed "swing states". New York is not one of those. The two shows in Boston were warm up shows and were played as a favor to Theo Epstein in order to "charm" the Redsox into the world series and eventual championship. Please get your facts straight before you swallow your foot. Thanks for calling!

Sorry guys, We aren't all like this, I swear.

So what you're saying is that by stating fact I'm not being civil? Good argument!

ernst4,

Everyone knows that the Boston shows had nothing to do with the Vote for change tour.

It should've been obvious from all the crap that NYC/NJ got for their upcoming shows. We all sat by and didn't bitch to the extent that the South did when we finally got a few shows up here. BTW, New Yorkers don't see the East Rutherford shows as "NY" shows!

Lastly, Irving Plaza was incredible! Wish every fanclub member could've been there.

I'm telling you, there's something in the air lately. I've never seen this many stupid threads here.


Oh, and IBTL.

You're a fucking waste of space.

I'm saving this for future reference if I need to check on something, otherwise I'd delete it.

No, he wasn't saying that, and not much you have stated can be proven as fact. But coming on here, and in your first 20 posts, trying to start shit with any fan who happens to be in the South is arrogant to say the least. Not to mention the fact that Hinny is a mod and has been as long as I have been on this board(since early 2003).




A majority of the VFC shows were up north and midwest, there were only 2 shows in the South proper, NC and FL. Not to mention, that wasn't the last time they toured either, do you remember last years Canadian tour at all, which the Northeast also benefitted from? It sounds like you just have an issue with them coming to NY proper with your statement, "BTW, New Yorkers don't see the East Rutherford shows as "NY" shows!" So why don't you get off your high horse about that one.



Would that include southern members?

On a side note, I am a southerner and have refrained from commenting on the lack of southern shows until now. Being located where I am the closest show that I can probably get to would be the Cincinnati show, which is still 8 hours away and I am trying to make that possible. There are several shows that have been much closer to you in the last few years that would have caused you much less travel.

Also, yes I did vote and tried to get others to vote as well in 2004. I can not help it if the majority of the people in the state I live in did not agree with what was in my heart. I do not feel the lack of Southern shows is a punishment for not voting and being in agreement with PJ's political views. It seems to me that they are changing their way of touring, and that they will be back in the US after the world tour legs are complete. At least that's what I am hoping.