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The rise and rise of file-sharing


By Dan Simmons
Reporter, BBC Click Online

Many people have built up digital music collections
Copying music has been commonplace since the invention of the tape recorder, whether the music industry liked it or not.

Then, in the 1990s, we suddenly found that our computers could copy CDs.

A black market in cheap copies immediately arose, leading to police raids around the world.

Even so, album sales in the world's main markets continued to climb until they peaked in 1999.

But since then a new way of copying music, and anything else you can load onto a computer, has taken hold.

Peer-to-peer (P2P) websites are based on the single simple concept of individuals sharing what they have on their computers, rather than keeping it to themselves.

The software is easy to find and download from the internet. Most set up a special folder or offer the user options for which files they want to share.

Instead of searching the web, P2P users then search each others' computers.

You can download any of the files you find for free, as long as the people who already have them are online.

Networks using the latest technology allow each file to be downloaded from lots of computers at the same time, which speeds up copying.

A typical pop song can be acquired in this way in less than a minute.

They can then be transferred to an MP3 player - like the iPod - or burned to a CD.

It has been estimated as many as nine out of 10 files shared in this way are music.

While P2P services themselves may be legal, sharing copyrighted songs is not.

Snowball effect

Last month a survey in America suggested one in four people under the age of 24 shared music for free.

That figure drops to less than one in 20 for everyone older, and it is a similar picture in Europe.

Tom Dunmore, editor of Rip 'n' Burn, the first magazine in the UK dedicated solely to the new download culture, says the industry ignored the phenomenon at first.

"They were thinking it was going to be a very small number of people who would be tech-savvy enough to use services like peer-to-peer, which at first weren't particularly easy to use.

"But they didn't realise how quickly the thing would snowball, and how appealing the idea of free music would be to a whole generation who had PCs in their bedrooms or at school, and who were finally getting broadband into their homes."

At first the music industry targeted P2P networks themselves, and in 2001 met with some success when the original Napster file-sharing service shut down.

But technologies moved on and other networks emerged to fill the void.

Since then, many judges have been reluctant to hold the sharing networks accountable for what their users download. Kazaa has just won such a ruling in Australia.

One of the most popular P2P networks, eDonkey, says it is doing nothing wrong.

"Our technology is just that. It's a piece of software that allows users to store information and share files with each other regardless of the type of file they're sharing", says Sam Yagan, eDonkey's president.

"Just like a Xerox machine or a VCR allows people to manipulate their media, so does our file-sharing software."

Legal action against individuals soon followed. In the US this meant a wide range of people being threatened with court action, a policy which was seen by many as a PR blunder.

Tom Dunmore says: "I think that people who are downloading music also buy music. You do risk alienating your entire audience by suing some downloaders, because you are suing music lovers."

Now the record companies are targeting uploaders - those people who make available thousands of tracks for copying.

Virus threat

The UK industry thinks the bulk of the tracks traded for free are provided by just 15% of users.

File-sharing is vulnerable to viruses and spoof files
But free file-sharing does not just have legal pitfalls.

Advertising campaigns are trying to warn P2P users of the risks of downloading viruses, which may be hidden inside the files they are trying to copy.

It is a fair warning. File-sharers often do not know what they have got until they open it, and by then it is often too late.

Free P2P networks are frequently bundled with spyware and advertising.

This is a concoction the record labels are keen to exploit to persuade us to pay for our music.

"When you download from a legal service you get what you pay for", says Matt Phillips, of the British Phonographic Industry (BPI).

"You're not going to get a spoof file or a virus, or something else unmentionable which I'm sure most parents wouldn't be too chuffed about their children downloading."

Spoiling tactics

While he is aware that some of the BPI's members may be putting spoof files into P2P networks, Mr Phillips says this is something the BPI cannot take a view on.

And the record labels do not shout about their relationship with a small company called Overpeer.

Scott Mills: Download-only files can be attractive to the record buyer
Based in New York, Overpeer enables some big industry names to use spoiling tactics and make the free-song swappers lives a misery.

By creating fake or "spoof" files it tries to swamp the swappers networks with useless content - anything from white noise to a repeated music sample.

Marc Morgenstern, CEO of Overpeer, says: "What we do is make the P2P experience much more frustrating and much less rewarding.

"Someone clicks on our file, expecting it to be a pirate file, but instead they encounter a decoy file.

"This is a file which may contain an audio sample or a game demonstration but does not contain the content that's expected."

Legal weapon

Perhaps the best weapon against music file-sharers are the new legal download sites.

This year has seen an explosion of them from 20 to 100 across Europe and America, offering high quality downloads for less than a pound or a dollar.

As Ed Averdieck, of digital music distributor OD2, points out: "You can buy three or four downloads, different tracks, for the same as you used to pay for a CD single."

And the idea of downloading has been embraced by the industry in some countries so much that they even have their own download chart like the one broadcast to the UK by BBC Radio One.

Radio One DJ Scott Mills says the download chart has featured many older records that have dropped out of the singles chart.

And, particularly in the run up to Christmas, more artists are releasing tracks available for download only or for download before you can buy in the shops.

This, he says, is quite attractive to the record buyer.

There are still some songs you can hear on the radio but not legally download online because a few copyright agreements with some artists have yet to be agreed.

But while illegal file sharing remains very popular, this is the first year that the music industry has truly embraced downloading and offered a legitimate alternative.

Across the UK, alongside the traditional record token, you can now buy download vouchers to use online.

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I don't see what anybody has to fear from file-sharing. Heck, it's free advertising. The number of CDs I bought skyrocketed after I started downloading, and I've been far more pleased with them.

Methinks it is more a control issue. Clear Channel and the RIAA want to be in absolute control and keep everyone away from the smaller non-conglomerate record labels. I don't see file sharing as a significant threat to their sales of any given album, but it is a threat to their stranglehold on the market.

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I don't see what anybody has to fear from file-sharing. Heck, it's free advertising. The number of CDs I bought skyrocketed after I started downloading, and I've been far more pleased with them.

Methinks it is more a control issue. Clear Channel and the RIAA want to be in absolute control and keep everyone away from the smaller non-conglomerate record labels. I don't see file sharing as a significant threat to their sales of any given album, but it is a threat to their stranglehold on the market.


*ding*

I would agree with that.

Downloading has certainly expanded my CD collection. I use it mainly to test out a song or band, see if it is good, and then buy the CD.

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The snowball effect will even get bigger with BitTorrent. There, EVERYONE is an uploader, not just the 15% that they claim.


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The snowball effect will even get bigger with BitTorrent. There, EVERYONE is an uploader, not just the 15% that they claim.


BitTorrent rules!

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tsunami wrote:
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The snowball effect will even get bigger with BitTorrent. There, EVERYONE is an uploader, not just the 15% that they claim.


BitTorrent rules!


Hell yes.

Though, these days I very rarely download copyrighted material. All hail live music.


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Green Habit wrote:
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The snowball effect will even get bigger with BitTorrent. There, EVERYONE is an uploader, not just the 15% that they claim.


BitTorrent rules!


Hell yes.

Though, these days I very rarely download copyrighted material. All hail live music.


Green Habit also rules.

And I usually only download live material as well.

usually :oops:

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I deleted Kazzaa off of my computer after they started to sue individuals. I rarely download anything anymore. I only download live Pearl Jam stuff. It has really hindered my CD buying habits as I bought more CD's when I downloaded music. I now only buy CD's from the artists I know for a fact I'll enjoy where before I would hunt down music and if I liked a lot from an artist I would buy some things recommended to me. Anyway, I don't care one way or another at this point. Hell, not downloading music is probably saving me money on not buying CD's. ANd I need to save money being a dirt poor college student.


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tsunami wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
The snowball effect will even get bigger with BitTorrent. There, EVERYONE is an uploader, not just the 15% that they claim.


BitTorrent rules!


I only download PJ shows. I have stopped buying cds and now make my own music. It's much better than the crap music that is out there (with a few exceptions).

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Green Habit wrote:
tsunami wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
The snowball effect will even get bigger with BitTorrent. There, EVERYONE is an uploader, not just the 15% that they claim.


BitTorrent rules!


Hell yes.

Though, these days I very rarely download copyrighted material. All hail live music.


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$úñ_DëV|L wrote:

Methinks it is more a control issue. Clear Channel and the RIAA want to be in absolute control and keep everyone away from the smaller non-conglomerate record labels. I don't see file sharing as a significant threat to their sales of any given album, but it is a threat to their stranglehold on the market.


Oh I think you're quite right on this, about the control issue. My feeling is if these companies had their way, you wouldn't even be able to buy CDs at one point; rather I can see them wanting everyone on some sort of monthly paying service to 'listen' rather than to 'own' music.

I download live stuff, no copyrighted stuff.


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It's funny how it's the record companies who complain, NOT the artists, methinks you lot may be onto something here.

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The snowball effect will even get bigger with BitTorrent. There, EVERYONE is an uploader, not just the 15% that they claim.
Just this weekend I saw my first major news outlet article related to Bit Torrent, mostly about how it's impossible to stop :lol:


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I don't have enough money to buy CDs.

Hence, I download.

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spk5512 wrote:
tsunami wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
The snowball effect will even get bigger with BitTorrent. There, EVERYONE is an uploader, not just the 15% that they claim.


BitTorrent rules!


I only download PJ shows. I have stopped buying cds and now make my own music. It's much better than the crap music that is out there (with a few exceptions).


spk5512 is one hell of a musician.

I'm you number one groupie!

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I've been going to the local library to borrow cd's and burn the crap out of them. They don't have a lot of new albums, but a very decent collection. I've probably burned 100 albums this month.

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u ... g_lawsuits

Source: Hollywood to Sue Server Operators

Tue Dec 14, 1:05 PM ET

By ALEX VEIGA, AP Business Writer

LOS ANGELES - The U.S. film industry is preparing to sue computer server operators in the United States and Europe who help relay digitized movie files across online file-sharing networks, a source familiar with the movie studios' plans said Tuesday.

The lawsuits are aimed at disrupting the unauthorized distribution of movie files through BitTorrent and eDonkey, two popular online file-swapping services, the source associated with the effort The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.

Calls to the Motion Picture Association of America were not immediately returned Tuesday. The trade group was expected to formally announce the lawsuit campaign at a news conference in Washington scheduled for Tuesday afternoon.

BitTorrent and eDonkey work differently but both enable computer users to share music, film, software and other files.

Both services have steadily gained in popularity after the recording industry began cracking down last year on users of Kazaa, Morpheus, Grokster and other established file-sharing software.

To disrupt BitTorrent users, the movie studios' lawsuits will target U.S.-based tracking servers that help direct how the bits of data move between users, the source said.

Similarly, the film industry's litigation will target eDonkey servers in Europe that also help relay data between computer users, the source said.

It was not immediately clear how many server operators would be sued or when the lawsuits would be filed.

Hollywood movie studios have become more proactive recently in their efforts to stamp out the unauthorized trading of films online, which the studios say has the potential to threaten their industry, particularly as bandwidth makes the large movie files easier to download.

By comparison, music files are far smaller and swapped at greater volume.

Last month, the studios began suing computer users for swapping digitized films online for copyright infringement. The industry has also been a party to lawsuits against Kazaa, Morpheus and Grokster.

The industry failed to persuade U.S. federal courts to shut down the services, and is awaiting a decision by the U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites).


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Green Habit wrote:
The snowball effect will even get bigger with BitTorrent. There, EVERYONE is an uploader, not just the 15% that they claim.


I would actually like to clarify this statement, because it looks a bit misleading to me right now.

It is very easy to find an IP address of a major uploader using BitTorrent. Most BT programs will show it, and the server usually has that IP tied to an account that will show total upload/download statistics.

Furthermore, BT relies on a central server (the tracker) to host the torrent file on. I do believe sites like suprnova could be forced to take on the burden of removing infringing material from their trackers--or easily be shut down.

So, it's not that tough for the industry to stop BitTorrent servers.

My earlier comment was only stressing that everybody is an uploader as well as a downloader due to the very nature of BT.


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Since you brought up suprnova, how the hell do those guys stay up even in the current environment? At least 99% of the stuff they have is copyrighted, and there have got to be people who have been trying to shut them down for a while already.

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Since you brought up suprnova, how the hell do those guys stay up even in the current environment? At least 99% of the stuff they have is copyrighted, and there have got to be people who have been trying to shut them down for a while already.

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I wondered that too occassionally, and simply assumed that the MPAA, etc. was taking its sweet time.


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