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May 24, 2006 -- WASHINGTON - In a surprise move yesterday, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton called for "most of the country" to return to a speed limit of 55 mph in an effort to slash fuel consumption.

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That’s real easy to say from someone who lives in a place where there isn’t a road that is safe to drive at faster than 65.

Take a trip out to America sometime, Hillary. It’s pretty.

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Why stop at 55? If we really want to save fuel we should lower it to 25.

Ideas like this show that some politicians have no common sense at all. Imagine driving through Kansas and having to slow down to 55. You could go 85-90 on some of those highways out west and still not feel like you are getting anywhere.

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I can only imagine many of her Upstate NY constituents will be e-mailing and calling her office to complain. I just did. No way the NY Thruway goes back to 55 MPH.


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I try to get to Utah yearly for mountain biking. One of the joys is flying into Denver andrenting a convertable in order to enjoy the drive to Moab. I couldn't imagine going less than 90 through the dessert, there's nothing to hit and the road's straight.
The 55 mph is just a bad idea. If she wants to promote fuels consumption why not introduce a mandatory minimum miles per gallon requirement on new car and truck sales.


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Ilium wrote:
Why stop at 55? If we really want to save fuel we should lower it to 25.


Cuz 25mph is just as inefficient as 65mph.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/question477.htm

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It's refreshing to see the Dem Think Thank hard at work.


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If she gets the nomination for '08, Democrats will have proven beyond a doubt that they are not substatively different from the Republicans and they have no serious intention of regaining power. Way to suck guys. :cry:


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55? That's ridiculous! Sure, it might save a few lives, but millions will be late!


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Green Habit wrote:
55? That's ridiculous! Sure, it might save a few lives, but millions will be late!


Not to mention that going at 55 on highways really takes the fun out of driving. Hillary Clinton hates American car culture!


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B wrote:
Ilium wrote:
Why stop at 55? If we really want to save fuel we should lower it to 25.


Cuz 25mph is just as inefficient as 65mph.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/question477.htm


That article was interesting.

The thinking behind this proposal is still backwards. Lowering the speed limit is not the way to conserve fuel. How about we build cars and trucks that don't run on gasoline? Then we price them so people can afford them.

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Ilium wrote:
How about we build cars and trucks that don't run on gasoline? Then we price them so people can afford them.


Easier said than done. :?


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Green Habit wrote:
Ilium wrote:
How about we build cars and trucks that don't run on gasoline? Then we price them so people can afford them.


Easier said than done. :?


Yeah, I know, I work at Ford. I don't know how we force people off of gasoline. The best idea I can think of is to mandate that every new car or truck must meet a federal guideline of 50 mph or else it must run on something other than gasoline. Legislation like that would get companies to get moving and change things now.

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Ilium wrote:
B wrote:
Ilium wrote:
Why stop at 55? If we really want to save fuel we should lower it to 25.


Cuz 25mph is just as inefficient as 65mph.

http://www.howstuffworks.com/question477.htm


That article was interesting.

The thinking behind this proposal is still backwards. Lowering the speed limit is not the way to conserve fuel. How about we build cars and trucks that don't run on gasoline? Then we price them so people can afford them.


Ford and GM have just dispatched teams to your house to kill you.

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Ilium wrote:
Green Habit wrote:
Ilium wrote:
How about we build cars and trucks that don't run on gasoline? Then we price them so people can afford them.


Easier said than done. :?


Yeah, I know, I work at Ford. I don't know how we force people off of gasoline. The best idea I can think of is to mandate that every new car or truck must meet a federal guideline of 50 mph or else it must run on something other than gasoline. Legislation like that would get companies to get moving and change things now.


*mpg? 50 mph is even stupider than 55 mph ;)

But anyway, I think 50's really unfeasible at this moment. Somewhere in the 20s sounds about right for now. What should have happened a long time ago is to include SUVs in the CAFE standards--that's a good start.


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diaglo wrote:
It's refreshing to see the Dem Think Thank hard at work.


Is that like STINK STUNK

or

DRINK DRUNK?


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If she gets the nomination for '08, Democrats will have proven beyond a doubt that they are not substatively different from the Republicans and they have no serious intention of regaining power. Way to suck guys. :cry:


This is absolutely true, and sadly, I'm sure there's a large section of the party who is seriously considering running her.

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There's a highway in West Texas that's just been changed to 80mph in the daytime. Suck it, Hillary!

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diaglo wrote:
It's refreshing to see the Dem Think Thank hard at work.


Is that like STINK STUNK

or

DRINK DRUNK?

I'm a girl drink drunk. :oops:

http://www.kithfan.org/work/transcripts ... ldrnk.html

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