10. Se7en
9. Scent of a Woman
8. The Thin Red Line
7. Forrest Gump
6. Goodfellas
5. Heat
4. Unforgiven
3. Saving Private Ryan
2. Schindlers List
1. Shawshank Redemption
Sorry Pulp Fiction, Fargo, Braveheart, LA Confidential
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There were about 100 films made more interesting than Shawshank Redemption, including Fargo, Naked, Chungking Express, Being John Malchovich, Goodfellas, Metropolitan, Killing Zoe, etc.
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01. Pulp Fiction
02. Festen
03. Fargo
04. La Haine
05. The Shawshank Redemption
06. The Silence of the Lambs
07. Shindler's List
08. Twelve Monkeys
09. Trainspotting
10. American Beauty
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glorified_version wrote:
There were about 100 films made more interesting than Shawshank Redemption, including Fargo, Naked, Chungking Express, Being John Malchovich, Goodfellas, Metropolitan, Killing Zoe, etc.
"Interesting" is not the only attribute that defines a good movie.
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There were about 100 films made more interesting than Shawshank Redemption, including Fargo, Naked, Chungking Express, Being John Malchovich, Goodfellas, Metropolitan, Killing Zoe, etc.
Well yeah. I consider "unforgiven" to be more of an interesting film than Shawshank, but Shawshank was so well crafted of a film with its music and atmosphere and what not. Hey its alright to conform to it. It deserves all the praise it gets for not winning one academy award.
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Shawshank is a great film, but would you call something being played on TBS 8 times a month, credible cinema? Its a fairly safe film, written by Stephen King, starring Tim Robbins and Morgan Freeman both of whom had already proven themselves to play fairly liberal-minded empathetic characters.
For me a film like Naked or Chungking Express is much easier to appreciate, the directors were taking risks stylistically and thematically and its a much more difficult task to appeal to a mainstream audience and be relatively successful. I could even adore Pulp Fiction, the dialogue is fairly over-the-top and Tarantino didn't hesitate to borrow from much more subversive and obscure films which he loved.
"Safe" films can be great films but they are just not transcendent.
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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.
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Also, good choice on The Celebration. I need to see some more Dogma films.
BTW, what is Le Haine?
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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.
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glorified_version wrote:
Also, good choice on The Celebration. I need to see some more Dogma films.
BTW, what is Le Haine?
La Haine (or: Hate) is a french film about alienated youth in Paris. Very gritty and insightful. I'd call it the ultimate Generation-X movie.
As to your remarks on the Shawshank Redemption: I agree that it's a relatively safe movie and that it does not excel either visually or thematically. It does however excel in acting performances and direction/editing. The pacing is close to perfection and every scene has it's place.
It may be a safe story, but it's a story told brilliantly.
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glorified_version wrote:
BTW, what is Le Haine?
* La Haine
It's a French movie by Matthieu Kassovitz (who has played in Spielberg's Munich and Amelie). It is the story of 3 friends living in the suburban area of Paris, facing frustration and everyday routine. They have no jobs and struggle to make something of their lives. It is shooted in black & white, which deepens the characters' isolation and hopelessness.
It had a great impact when it was released, and the lines from the trailer are famous here.
From memory and translated approximatively:
"It's the story of a man who falls from the top of a 50-floor building, and to reassure himself he repeats: 'until now everything is alright' But what matters is not the fall... It's the landing"
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I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
10. Se7en 9. Scent of a Woman 8. The Thin Red Line 7. Forrest Gump 6. Goodfellas 5. Heat 4. Unforgiven 3. Saving Private Ryan 2. Schindlers List 1. Shawshank Redemption
Sorry Pulp Fiction, Fargo, Braveheart, LA Confidential
LA Confidential takes Scent of a Woman by a landslide.
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dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
10. Se7en 9. Scent of a Woman 8. The Thin Red Line 7. Forrest Gump 6. Goodfellas 5. Heat 4. Unforgiven 3. Saving Private Ryan 2. Schindlers List 1. Shawshank Redemption
Sorry Pulp Fiction, Fargo, Braveheart, LA Confidential
LA Confidential takes Scent of a Woman by a landslide.
It takes all ten of those movies by a landslide. Maybe with the exceptions of GoodFellas and Schindler's List.
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Ensign9 wrote:
dirtyfrank0705 wrote:
I Hail Randy Moss wrote:
10. Se7en 9. Scent of a Woman 8. The Thin Red Line 7. Forrest Gump 6. Goodfellas 5. Heat 4. Unforgiven 3. Saving Private Ryan 2. Schindlers List 1. Shawshank Redemption
Sorry Pulp Fiction, Fargo, Braveheart, LA Confidential
LA Confidential takes Scent of a Woman by a landslide.
It takes all ten of those movies by a landslide. Maybe with the exceptions of GoodFellas and Schindler's List.
I'd say a good half, but not all. Unforgiven, Heat and Shawshank are up there for me as well as the two you mentioned. But LA Confidential certainly deserves to be in the top 5.
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In no particular order (and leaving out a ton of good films)
Big Lebowski
Dazed and Confused
Silence of the Lambs
Toy Story 2
JFK
Goodfellas
Miller's Crossing
LA Confidential
Last of the Mohicans
Heavenly Creatures
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glorified_version wrote:
There were about 100 films made more interesting than Shawshank Redemption, including Fargo, Naked, Chungking Express, Being John Malchovich, Goodfellas, Metropolitan, Killing Zoe, etc.
just two posts in i realize how subjective and pointless a list like this is... because the above bolded movie is one of the worst films i have ever sat through.... IMO
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pearljamminagain wrote:
glorified_version wrote:
There were about 100 films made more interesting than Shawshank Redemption, including Fargo, Naked, Chungking Express, Being John Malchovich, Goodfellas, Metropolitan, Killing Zoe, etc.
just two posts in i realize how subjective and pointless a list like this is... because the above bolded movie is one of the worst films i have ever sat through.... IMO
And it was bad because...
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LittleWing sometime in July 2007 wrote:
Unfortunately, it's so elementary, and the big time investors behind the drive in the stock market aren't so stupid. This isn't the false economy of 2000.
There were about 100 films made more interesting than Shawshank Redemption, including Fargo, Naked, Chungking Express, Being John Malchovich, Goodfellas, Metropolitan, Killing Zoe, etc.
just two posts in i realize how subjective and pointless a list like this is... because the above bolded movie is one of the worst films i have ever sat through.... IMO
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