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Which should they play first
No Way 56%  56%  [ 85 ]
Leash 43%  43%  [ 66 ]
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 Post subject: Why the hate for Leash? (Leash vs No Way)
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I understand it's not PJ's greatest song, but it's one of their most fun, in my opinion. Musically, it's hard at the beginning with a great, upbeat groove for the chorus. Yes the lyrics are outdated since we are not young anymore, but so what? I just don't understand why people say it's one of PJ's worst songs. Your thoughts?

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i think a lot of people not neccesarily on RM but just many are bandwagon jumpers...like ooo play leash we miss it! or fuck leash its dumb message out dated...just seems like i see alot of people saying the samething over and over about it and not many people formulating thier own opinion about it


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 Post subject: Re: Why the hate for Leash?
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YieldInHiding wrote:
I understand it's not PJ's greatest song, but it's one of their most fun, in my opinion. Musically, it's hard at the beginning with a great, upbeat groove for the chorus. Yes the lyrics are outdated since we are not young anymore, but so what? I just don't understand why people say it's one of PJ's worst songs. Your thoughts?


I was kind of under the impression that with the Leash campaign in action, that this was actually a very popular song for the hardcore fans. And with them having played it at the soundcheck, it does not appear to be too far off from being played. Where are you seeing the hate for Leash?

While I agree that we are not young anymore, and I personally appreciated it more when I was younger, I think it is one of those songs that brings me back a little.


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giventofly_88 wrote:
i think a lot of people not neccesarily on RM but just many are bandwagon jumpers...like ooo play leash we miss it! or fuck leash its dumb message out dated...just seems like i see alot of people saying the samething over and over about it and not many people formulating thier own opinion about it


I think part of the problem is the band puts certain songs away for a long time for seemingly no reason. For instance, Ed sometimes says he hates Glorified G, yet they keep playing it. Then, when something isn't played for a while, people freak out about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Why the hate for Leash?
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I understand it's not PJ's greatest song, but it's one of their most fun, in my opinion. Musically, it's hard at the beginning with a great, upbeat groove for the chorus. Yes the lyrics are outdated since we are not young anymore, but so what? I just don't understand why people say it's one of PJ's worst songs. Your thoughts?


I was kind of under the impression that with the Leash campaign in action, that this was actually a very popular song for the hardcore fans. And with them having played it at the soundcheck, it does not appear to be too far off from being played. Where are you seeing the hate for Leash?

While I agree that we are not young anymore, and I personally appreciated it more when I was younger, I think it is one of those songs that brings me back a little.


I've noticed many people on both boards saying what a shitty song it was. Ganjafarmer (whoever he is, but close to the band, nonetheless) even said "it's the opinion of many close to (and in) the band that the song sucks."

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 Post subject: Re: Why the hate for Leash?
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I understand it's not PJ's greatest song, but it's one of their most fun, in my opinion. Musically, it's hard at the beginning with a great, upbeat groove for the chorus. Yes the lyrics are outdated since we are not young anymore, but so what? I just don't understand why people say it's one of PJ's worst songs. Your thoughts?


I was kind of under the impression that with the Leash campaign in action, that this was actually a very popular song for the hardcore fans. And with them having played it at the soundcheck, it does not appear to be too far off from being played. Where are you seeing the hate for Leash?

While I agree that we are not young anymore, and I personally appreciated it more when I was younger, I think it is one of those songs that brings me back a little.


I've noticed many people on both boards saying what a shitty song it was. Ganjafarmer (whoever he is, but close to the band, nonetheless) even said "it's the opinion of many close to (and in) the band that the song sucks."


Fair enough. I had not seen that. It seems to me that the fans are not shying away however (I am sure you saw the webcast). And the band appears ready to oblige, though that is yet to be seen.

Sometimes I think the best thing that can happen to a song is for the band to just not play it for an extended period of time. It increases the popularity in the song by a great deal. Examples - Alive (stopped playing after Roskilde for quite a while and it was even more popular when it was played again), Blood, Why Go, Garden on the last tour.


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 Post subject: Re: Why the hate for Leash?
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MDSkinner wrote:
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I understand it's not PJ's greatest song, but it's one of their most fun, in my opinion. Musically, it's hard at the beginning with a great, upbeat groove for the chorus. Yes the lyrics are outdated since we are not young anymore, but so what? I just don't understand why people say it's one of PJ's worst songs. Your thoughts?


I was kind of under the impression that with the Leash campaign in action, that this was actually a very popular song for the hardcore fans. And with them having played it at the soundcheck, it does not appear to be too far off from being played. Where are you seeing the hate for Leash?

While I agree that we are not young anymore, and I personally appreciated it more when I was younger, I think it is one of those songs that brings me back a little.


I've noticed many people on both boards saying what a shitty song it was. Ganjafarmer (whoever he is, but close to the band, nonetheless) even said "it's the opinion of many close to (and in) the band that the song sucks."


Fair enough. I had not seen that. It seems to me that the fans are not shying away however (I am sure you saw the webcast). And the band appears ready to oblige, though that is yet to be seen.

Sometimes I think the best thing that can happen to a song is for the band to just not play it for an extended period of time. It increases the popularity in the song by a great deal. Examples - Alive (stopped playing after Roskilde for quite a while and it was even more popular when it was played again), Blood, Why Go, Garden on the last tour.



It seems like people either love the song or hate it.

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they'll play it...i think the letterman sign was a funny thing to do...but they'l play it sometime soon...the soundcheck is a good start...


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why so much love for leash :?:

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giventofly_88 wrote:
they'll play it...i think the letterman sign was a funny thing to do...but they'l play it sometime soon...the soundcheck is a good start...


I agree. It seems like a guarantee now.

I think Parachutes will finally be played as well. That is the one I am most looking forward to seeing how they pull off live, at the moment.


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MDSkinner wrote:
giventofly_88 wrote:
they'll play it...i think the letterman sign was a funny thing to do...but they'l play it sometime soon...the soundcheck is a good start...


I agree. It seems like a guarantee now.

I think Parachutes will finally be played as well. That is the one I am most looking forward to seeing how they pull off live, at the moment.


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" drop the leash, drop the leash
get out of my fucking face"


That is the reason why I hate the song. This song just reeks of immaturity. In my opinion the lyrics for Leash could have been written by Nickelback.


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why so much love for leash :?:
b/c they havent played it in so long. this is also the reason so many people hate it. the song isnt any better just b/c its rare

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YieldInHiding wrote:
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they'll play it...i think the letterman sign was a funny thing to do...but they'l play it sometime soon...the soundcheck is a good start...


I agree. It seems like a guarantee now.

I think Parachutes will finally be played as well. That is the one I am most looking forward to seeing how they pull off live, at the moment.


Big Wave will be played in San Diego. Mark it down. :)


That would be nice. I am amazed it has not made it into a set yet either.


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" drop the leash, drop the leash
get out of my fucking face"


That is the reason why I hate the song. This song just reeks of immaturity. In my opinion the lyrics for Leash could have been written by Nickelback.

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Dr. Gonzo wrote:
" drop the leash, drop the leash
get out of my fucking face"


That is the reason why I hate the song. This song just reeks of immaturity. In my opinion the lyrics for Leash could have been written by Nickelback.


If you want lyrics go listen to Dylan. :wink: Lyrics are important, but sometimes a song rocks so much (Leash) that lyrics mean nothing. Animal is much the same way.

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i dont hate leash.. i just hate the morons who want to turn pearl jam shows into the wwf

i am really glad i didnt have to deal with those signs at the shows i went to

so beacuse of the signs i hope they never play it.. its not cause i dont like the song


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Dr. Gonzo wrote:
" drop the leash, drop the leash
get out of my fucking face"


That is the reason why I hate the song. This song just reeks of immaturity. In my opinion the lyrics for Leash could have been written by Nickelback.



that is a slap in the face

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b/c they havent played it in so long. this is also the reason so many people hate it. the song isnt any better just b/c its rare


You are absolutely right about this, but there are certainly a number of people that percieve it as better due to the fact that it has not been played.


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i dont hate leash.. i just hate the morons who want to turn pearl jam shows into the wwf

i am really glad i didnt have to deal with those signs at the shows i went to

so beacuse of the signs i hope they never play it.. its not cause i dont like the song


Speaking of signs, some dumbass had a huge sign in Chicago and when Ed sang Last Kiss behind us, I couldn't see him at all thanks to said sign. I think they even had it upside down. Lame.

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