Red Mosquito • View topic - RHCP, Tool, Nickelback all climb, PJ falls.... ???

kusko_andy · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:04 am

This is not a personal lamentation about Pearl Jam's chart position. I just want to know how people can buy MORE of these other bands after they've already been on the charts for a while, and LESS of Pearl Jam. Especially considering that this seems like PJ's most accessible and radio-friendly album in quite a while.

sad · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:07 am

kusko_andy wrote:

This is not a personal lamentation about Pearl Jam's chart position. I just want to know how people can buy MORE of these other bands after they've already been on the charts for a while, and LESS of Pearl Jam. Especially considering that this seems like PJ's most accessible and radio-friendly album in quite a while.

kids relate to the paddle pop man :roll:

kusko_andy · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:47 am

sad wrote:

kusko_andy wrote:

This is not a personal lamentation about Pearl Jam's chart position. I just want to know how people can buy MORE of these other bands after they've already been on the charts for a while, and LESS of Pearl Jam. Especially considering that this seems like PJ's most accessible and radio-friendly album in quite a while.

kids relate to the paddle pop man :roll:

I'm not a big Tool fan, but they are not really poppish, and they've been around a long time now so they're not the new, hip thing. To see them outperform PJ from a commercial standpoint is very strange to me.

pearljamfan80 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:50 am

because poser bands>the real thing.

sad · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 8:55 am

kusko_andy wrote:

sad wrote:

kusko_andy wrote:

This is not a personal lamentation about Pearl Jam's chart position. I just want to know how people can buy MORE of these other bands after they've already been on the charts for a while, and LESS of Pearl Jam. Especially considering that this seems like PJ's most accessible and radio-friendly album in quite a while.

kids relate to the paddle pop man :roll:

I'm not a big Tool fan, but they are not really poppish, and they've been around a long time now so they're not the new, hip thing. To see them outperform PJ from a commercial standpoint is very strange to me.

i must admit that i am very suprised at the amount of success that tool have had, i don't think that they have had a great album since aenima.

as for nickleback they just sing pop songs with guitars and long hair

I Got Memories · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:06 am

sad wrote:

kusko_andy wrote:

sad wrote:

kusko_andy wrote:

This is not a personal lamentation about Pearl Jam's chart position. I just want to know how people can buy MORE of these other bands after they've already been on the charts for a while, and LESS of Pearl Jam. Especially considering that this seems like PJ's most accessible and radio-friendly album in quite a while.

kids relate to the paddle pop man :roll:

I'm not a big Tool fan, but they are not really poppish, and they've been around a long time now so they're not the new, hip thing. To see them outperform PJ from a commercial standpoint is very strange to me.

i must admit that i am very suprised at the amount of success that tool have had, i don't think that they have had a great album since aenima.

as for nickleback they just sing pop songs with guitars and long hair

so true, it makes me sick

Primal · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:15 am

I Got Memories wrote:

sad wrote:

kusko_andy wrote:

sad wrote:

kusko_andy wrote:

This is not a personal lamentation about Pearl Jam's chart position. I just want to know how people can buy MORE of these other bands after they've already been on the charts for a while, and LESS of Pearl Jam. Especially considering that this seems like PJ's most accessible and radio-friendly album in quite a while.

kids relate to the paddle pop man :roll:

I'm not a big Tool fan, but they are not really poppish, and they've been around a long time now so they're not the new, hip thing. To see them outperform PJ from a commercial standpoint is very strange to me.

i must admit that i am very suprised at the amount of success that tool have had, i don't think that they have had a great album since aenima.

as for nickleback they just sing pop songs with guitars and long hair

so true, it makes me sick

Makes me sick too - but the girlfriend loves it. Completely does my head in!!!

sad · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 9:17 am

Primal wrote:

I Got Memories wrote:

sad wrote:

kusko_andy wrote:

sad wrote:

kusko_andy wrote:

This is not a personal lamentation about Pearl Jam's chart position. I just want to know how people can buy MORE of these other bands after they've already been on the charts for a while, and LESS of Pearl Jam. Especially considering that this seems like PJ's most accessible and radio-friendly album in quite a while.

kids relate to the paddle pop man :roll:

I'm not a big Tool fan, but they are not really poppish, and they've been around a long time now so they're not the new, hip thing. To see them outperform PJ from a commercial standpoint is very strange to me.

i must admit that i am very suprised at the amount of success that tool have had, i don't think that they have had a great album since aenima.

as for nickleback they just sing pop songs with guitars and long hair

so true, it makes me sick

Makes me sick too - but the girlfriend loves it. Completely does my head in!!!

seems to be the way it goes :roll:

Avocado · **Joined:** Wed May 10, 2006 5:46 am **Posts:** 609

Guys, the last 2 RHCP albums & Tool albums have been huge.. The last 2 PJ albums before their new one were commercial flops. That's why Pearl Jam isn't selling as much as them... It's gonna take more than just this album to make a comeback & be on the same level saleswise as RHCP & Tool. This album is just the first step.

pearljamrockmysocks1 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:34 am

i am a big tool fan and i also like rhcp, but i cant stand nickleback i think that pearl jam should be where nickleback are, its only right.

MF · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:36 am

RHCP and Nickelback get massive airplay on radio and MTV. You'll hear their songs more times in an hour than you will Tool or PJ's in a week. That explains their success. Tool has a massive fanbase. They appeal to fans of numerous genres whearas PJ appeals mainly to PJ fans.

I think you people are a bit jaded in regards to your musical worldview. Hanging out on a busy PJ message board every day might give one the impression that they are actually a hugely popular band, but i think that's a misconception. Granted they still fill arenas around the world but it's only because they have a dedicated fanbase of hardcore lifelong fans. Despite the radiofriendliness of the new album i don't think they are winning a lot of new fans over just yet.

Cal Varnsen · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:41 am

MF wrote:

RHCP and Nickelback get massive airplay on radio and MTV. You'll hear their songs more times in an hour than you will Tool or PJ's in a week. That explains their success. Tool has a massive fanbase. They appeal to fans of numerous genres whearas PJ appeals mainly to PJ fans.

I think you people are a bit jaded in regards to your musical worldview. Hanging out on a busy PJ message board every day might give one the impression that they are actually a hugely popular band, but i think that's a misconception. Granted they still fill arenas around the world but it's only because they have a dedicated fanbase of hardcore lifelong fans. Despite the radiofriendliness of the new album i don't think they are winning a lot of new fans over just yet.

well said Michael.

and this just in, the RHCP and Tool albums are very good. i dont see why this should surprise anyone.

Avocado · **Joined:** Wed May 10, 2006 5:46 am **Posts:** 609

I don't think the RHCP have ever truly made a good album...

pearljamrockmysocks1 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:43 am

Avocado wrote:

I don't think the RHCP have ever truly made a good album...

Avocado · **Joined:** Wed May 10, 2006 5:46 am **Posts:** 609

pearljamrockmysocks1 wrote:

Avocado wrote:

I don't think the RHCP have ever truly made a good album...

I gotta say I really think so.. I own BSSM, I own Californication, & I own Stadium Arcadium... Every album has it's good songs here & there, but beginning to end I don't think so.

pearljamrockmysocks1 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 11:52 am

but mothers milk is such a good album, i think its the best they have done.

Avocado · **Joined:** Wed May 10, 2006 5:46 am **Posts:** 609

I haven't heard that one.

OmegaprimeVKM · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:05 pm

That's because it came out before they sold out.

Scrub12 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:14 pm

I'm a big Tool fan, but there new album isn't that good. Right in Two is an awesome song, but the rest really is just decent, and isn't up to their standards.

JaneNY · **Posted:** Tue Jun 13, 2006 12:41 pm

Avocado wrote:

I don't think the RHCP have ever truly made a good album...

BSSM?! But you were about 6 when that came out - maybe you don't have it?

RHCP, Tool, Nickelback all climb, PJ falls.... ???

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