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Pffft. I read somewhere that you're wrong. Scarface is a good movie, but it's by no means, in any way, shape, or form, through any stretch of the imagination, on a level that's anywhere near the first two Godfather films.
Goodfellas is highly overrated, as well. It's a good film about the mafia. That's it. It doesn't have anywhere near the complexity and depth that "The Godfather" or its sequel had. Nor is the acting as good, nor is the cinematography as good, nor is the writing as good, nor can any aspect of it compare to the Godfather movies.
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Pffft. I read somewhere that you're wrong. Scarface is a good movie, but it's by no means, in any way, shape, or form, through any stretch of the imagination, on a level that's anywhere near the first two Godfather films.
Goodfellas is highly overrated, as well. It's a good film about the mafia. That's it. It doesn't have anywhere near the complexity and depth that "The Godfather" or its sequel had. Nor is the acting as good, nor is the cinematography as good, nor is the writing as good, nor can any aspect of it compare to the Godfather movies.
I tend to agree here. Goodfellas was a really good mob movie that didn't quite live up to it's potential.
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the final scene in Godfather 3 when Al Pacino dies all old in the chair is fuckin' amazing!
OMG, you're so right! Its such a powerful moment. So is the scene on the steps just before the final scene where Pacino is holding his daughter and lets out the biggest scream i've ever heard. Truly powerful stuff.
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Pffft. I read somewhere that you're wrong. Scarface is a good movie, but it's by no means, in any way, shape, or form, through any stretch of the imagination, on a level that's anywhere near the first two Godfather films.
Goodfellas is highly overrated, as well. It's a good film about the mafia. That's it. It doesn't have anywhere near the complexity and depth that "The Godfather" or its sequel had. Nor is the acting as good, nor is the cinematography as good, nor is the writing as good, nor can any aspect of it compare to the Godfather movies.
comlexity or depth? Goodfellas wasn't trying to be that type of movie. It was based on a book about a guy who was a career criminal - that's it. Godfather was based on a book that had MUCH more to say.
you're comparing apples to oranges.
Regarding your comments on the acting and writing, the motion picture academy, most critics, and I disagree.
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From what I've seen, my ranking (btw, I'm using the genre VERY loosely, more just gangster, not mafia.)
1. Reservoir Dogs
2. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels
3. The Godfather
4. Scarface
5. The Untouchables
6. Goodfellas
7. Road To Perdition
8. The Godfather Part II
9. Snatch
10. Once Upon a Time In America
Pffft. I read somewhere that you're wrong. Scarface is a good movie, but it's by no means, in any way, shape, or form, through any stretch of the imagination, on a level that's anywhere near the first two Godfather films.
Goodfellas is highly overrated, as well. It's a good film about the mafia. That's it. It doesn't have anywhere near the complexity and depth that "The Godfather" or its sequel had. Nor is the acting as good, nor is the cinematography as good, nor is the writing as good, nor can any aspect of it compare to the Godfather movies.
comlexity or depth? Goodfellas wasn't trying to be that type of movie. It was based on a book about a guy who was a career criminal - that's it. Godfather was based on a book that had MUCH more to say.
you're comparing apples to oranges.
Regarding your comments on the acting and writing, the motion picture academy, most critics, and I disagree.
For the record, apples and oranges can be compared -- that's a phrase that doesn't make any sense, yet people seem to use quite frequently...
On topic, I'm not quite sure. I guess the question is what does Godfather have that Goodfellas doesn't and vice versa?
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Honestly there is nothing nearly as good as the first two Godfather films. They are extraordinary is so many ways.
I really like Goodfellas, it's a fun movie and it's a good mob representation but not in the same league as the Godfather. I would probably rank it third.
Here's the funny thing about GF3, it has its moments. Andy Garcia is pretty good and Pacino is as well but Sofia Copala is so so so bad that it railroads t
the movie. If they had gotten that role right it might have been able to somewhat live up to the mantle of the previous two, but she was so bad. She's a much better director than actor, that's for sure.
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From what I've seen, my ranking (btw, I'm using the genre VERY loosely, more just gangster, not mafia.)
1. Reservoir Dogs 2. Lock, Stock and Two Smoking Barrels 3. The Godfather 4. Scarface 5. The Untouchables 6. Goodfellas 7. Road To Perdition 8. The Godfather Part II 9. Once Upon a Time In America
comlexity or depth? Goodfellas wasn't trying to be that type of movie. It was based on a book about a guy who was a career criminal - that's it. Godfather was based on a book that had MUCH more to say.
That's irrelevant. I don't care what the intentions of each movie were. Apples and oranges my ass. They're both mafia movies and they can be compared. The Godfather is a better film than Goodfellas. Plain and simple.
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Regarding your comments on the acting and writing, the motion picture academy, most critics, and I disagree.
When did the motion picture academy or any critics--let alone most of them--make any statement decreeing that they believed that Goodfellas had better acting and writing than The Godfather? Maybe you should re-read what I wrote in my original post.
The Godfather had better writing and acting than Goodfellas. Plain and simple.
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