I like having clement on board but I'd still like it more if they'd also get either Burnett or Odalis Perez. I hate for the Red Sox to be Yankee-esque and buy every good pitcher, but when that's your direct competition you have to stoop to the same levels in order to be competitive.

I really wish that there were rules regarding the amount of offseason transactions a team could make, to balance things out. If every team were only able to make 2 or 3 moves per offseason it might help to balance things out. If that were the case they would have been done already: Mantei, Wells, Renteria, but now they've added Clement, so that's four and they still need to resign Tek and then add another pitcher, which would be five.

Teams like the Brewers, Padres, D-Rays, etc will probably go the entire offseason without adding an impact player to their roster while you could argue that Boston has already added three as have the Yankees (i don't count Mantei as an impact player because of his injury issues).

But, back to the subject at hand, i like adding Clement. He is a good middle of the rotation guy who could be a 15-17 winner. Remember though that his ERA will probably rise because he is no longer pitching to NL lineups.

and there was much rejoicing.

yay...

That is very very good. Clement is a solid pitcher, and with solid bats behind him, should be very effective. Excellent.

Interesting comment. Didn't the Redsox just win the WS with a team that had exactly ZERO players that came from their farm system? With your new rule it would be tough for them to continue to build their teams through free agency and trades huh?

Answer = NO

Trot Nixon - http://boston.redsox.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb ... _id=119811

Kevin Youkilis - Moved up from AAA Pawtucket in 2004

Probably a couple more, I know Curt was at first, Ellis Burks probably as well.

Big time contributers there, come on now.

You didn't say anything about contribution. But now that you bring it up, Curt didn't contribute?

Curt? Using your reasoning, the Redsox bought the 2004 WS. They had a payroll that was $50 million higher than the Cards.

We did buy it, and I must say, it was a Bargain, 55 million less than the Yanks, and all they got was going down as the biggest collapse in sports history. Whats your point.

Do you have a point? I have been awaiting one from you for some time now.

awesome stuff. that should weaken the cubs pitching roster a little bit and help out the red sox.

I thought you could pick up the bold text. We agree.

Speaking of contributors I believe Stripe64 mentioned Trot Nixon as well. He came up in the Sox farm system and I believe he hit a bases-loaded, 3 run double in Game 4 of the Series...but that's not contribution. And let's look at Kevin Youklis. Without him the Sox lose probably 4-5 games they won and don't even make the playoffs. SO you could say he was a contributor as well. Get a clue before you step up to the plate next time will ya.

look douche, the point was the core, the most important parts of your team, the guys that carried them all year and made nearly all of the key plays are imported from other teams systems. Youklis had 208 AB's last year and he had only 2 in the whole postseason. Nixon had 149 AB's the whole year.

The original point of this discussion was that the Yankees went out and bought players. I simply countered that the Redsox roster has less homegrown players than most. It is a fact. Get over it.

the cubs let him go because they don't really need him.

he'll more than likely be replaced with glendon ruesch, who was all but lights-out last year

we'll see. maybe you're right and they'll have to go with mitre or guzman instead

I still think Theo's got something up his sleeve. I think that they're just about done as far as free agents go... not taking into account their own free agents. Lots of talk on EEI lately about the Sox making a puch for Delgado, I just don't see this happening though. Personally, I wouldn't want Delgado anyways, not only is he injury prone, but his whole anit-American stance would not fly around here. I think that the Clement signing was just to stop the bleeding a bit from the Pedro loss. I've never been a big fan of his, I'm a Cubs fan too, I just don't see him as a solid number 2 guy. I do think though with a solid lineup behind him he could be a 15 game winner. I thought that it was interesting to hear that when the Sox were close to trading Manny to the Mets, they were also on the verge of signing Beltre, Renteria, and JD Drew... boy that would have been a much different team. That likens back to last off season when Arod and Maglio almost replaced Manny and Nomar. It's gonna be another wild season, especially with all of the Yankee's pickups so far. They're also the front runners for Beltran at the moment!