I've seen a number of fights in my day. Typically, they all end the same way, lasting less than a couple of minutes with the fight broken up before there are any serious injuries. But sometimes...fights are much more serious. I've seen my friend be attacked with a brick while he was urinating, that same friend be chased with a hammer while he was driving away, I've had a beer bottle hurled at me and I know of a kid who was stabbed three times while he was trying to break up a fight.
Bottom line...subjecting yourself to an unregulated battle with an anonymous opponent is unbelievably stupid. I have been in one real fight in my life. I was like 9 years old. Basically, there was an argument over kickball and I tackled my classmate after he threw a kickball in my face from a couple of feet away, so I certainly didn't start it. Lately, I'm starting to realize more than ever that a fight should be avoided at all costs. Nothing irritates me more than people who, for whatever reason, feel the need to start a fight every time they go out (people I refer to as "meatheads"). I have one friend who is a nice, friendly and fun person, but sometimes when he gets drunk he turns into this really annoying meathead and he ends up getting into a fight for basically no reason. The other day I flipped out at him and told him he needs to quit that shit before him or one of his friends gets hurt or dies. Sounds liek an exaggeration, but it is not. The truth is, you never know what the other person knows as far as fighting goes (martial arts, kickboxing, wrestling...) and you never know how psychotic they are (guns, knives, bricks hammers). Of all the fights I have seen in my life, I don't think any have ever occurred with good reason.
I remember this one time, there was a pretty large group of people drinking at the golf course. I didn't really know everyone who was there. Out of nowhere, this beer bottle whizzes right past my head and I turnd and say something along the lines of "yo, what the fuck?!" This kid is standing abotu 20 feet away from me, shouting some inaudible rant, while a couple of his friends are trying to calm him down like he is a mental patient or something. I yell "what was that for?" His friend walks up to me and says "yo, he is just loaded. He didn't mean to throw anything at you, he just threw it. he is being an idiot." I said "whatever" and turned around. About 5 minutes later, the kid came up to me himself and personally apologized to me. To be honest...I was proud of myself. Anyone who is going to randomly throw beer bottles around at a party probably deserves to get their ass kicked, but I was very happy with the way he, his friends and me handled the situation. The fight was avoided, all was well.
So all in all, what the fuck is up with people who feel the need to flex their beer muscles, talk shit, stick their nose in everyone's business and start a fight? I just can't comprehend this mentality, but I'm noticing that it is a pretty serious problem with many adult males.
mike was my brothers buddy in highschool. they were 2 grades ahead of me, and mike was about 6'3 and 260 of pure anger and muscle. if i even thought about making a smartass comment at him, i got popped something fierce. i was hit alot, but the point is, there are no mikes around to smack kids around when they are being dicks. everyones scared a kid is now strapped or what not, so they let things go that would otherwise pound the kid with common sense
So all in all, what the fuck is up with people who feel the need to flex their beer muscles, talk shit, stick their nose in everyone's business and start a fight? I just can't comprehend this mentality, but I'm noticing that it is a pretty serious problem with many adult males.
You can't understand it due to your good taste in music and normal sized genitals.
Joined: Mon Oct 18, 2004 2:29 pm Posts: 6217 Location: Evil Bunny Land
Some people just like to fight. I have no idea what that's all about. I have some friends that are like that occasionally. When my best friend drinks whiskey, i know that i immediately have to stop drinking and babysit him or he will start some sort of commotion. He's dangerous, too, because he is a little guy. People aren't afraid to fight him and then he just goes psycho on them.
It's a big problem here in Oklahoma and Texas. Everyone out at nights feels like they have to show everyone how big of a badass they are. It's retarded.
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mike was my brothers buddy in highschool. they were 2 grades ahead of me, and mike was about 6'3 and 260 of pure anger and muscle. if i even thought about making a smartass comment at him, i got popped something fierce. i was hit alot, but the point is, there are no mikes around to smack kids around when they are being dicks. everyones scared a kid is now strapped or what not, so they let things go that would otherwise pound the kid with common sense
See...even if a kid is being a dick, there is rarely a need to start a fight. At the risk of sounding like an after school special, these kind of things can be avoided through apologies and reasoning.
Example:
A couple of weeks ago we are at my friend's apartment. My friend was pretty drunk and this girl asked him if she could have one his beers to which he replied "maybe if you show me your tits." It was a really juvenile, awkward and stupid comment that should have never been said, especially to this girl he hardly knew. He was messing around, but still...I thought it was kind of a weird thing to say.
Anyhow...I hear words being yelled in the other room, so I walk in and say "what's going on?" Then this kid gets right up in my face and says "who the fuck are you?" I laughed and said, "yo, I'm just wondering what the hell is going on here." My other friend walks in the room and the kid says "what are you looking at, you goofy looking faggot?" Basically...this kid was trying to start something with about 4 of my friends and we were all very confused, and one of my friends started stepping toward him, but he as held back. We later find out that it is because of the "tit" comment my friend said earlier, that was apparently directed at this kid's friend's girlfriend.
So, my one friend whose apartment it was (he actually knoew everyone there, while most people did not) gets in between, explains that my friend is a good kid and although his comment was admittedly uncalled for, he was messing around, he'd appreciate it if no one fought in his place and suggested that we all forget about it and have a good time. After a couple of minutes of cooling everyone down, everything was settled, it was all forgotten about, and the two kids who were at the core of the problem ended up hanging out and smoking pot together.
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Fighting is completely different now than when I was a kid....and I don't think that is a product of me growing up. I got in many fights when I was younger, and witnessed many more and almost every one of them ended after a few punches were thrown and the first blood was drawn. I guess it was always some sort of unwritten code that all you needed to do was bloody your opponents nose in order to assert your dominance or get your point across. There would only be two people fighting, and the spectators were just that...spectators. They weren't there to back up their friend when he started losing.
Fighting nowadays is out of control. If you kick the other guys ass, chances are the 5 or 6 friends of his are going to jump in and pound you or 20 guys will show up at your house the next day to kick your ass or jump you in the street. I've seen that happen to a few good friends. Then there is the chance of weapons being brought in. People get stabbed all the time around here or get their faces pounded into the cement. It's fucking sick.
So i do my best to avoid fights, and avoiding places where the worst kind of fights occur. I rarely go out to the big bar across town because that shit is just commonplace there.
Being that my friends and I are all adults now, I honestly feel bad if one of them starts a fight, basically because it is unbelievably immature.
This became more apparent than ever when my one friend was about to get into a fight at a bar and this girl I hang out with was saying to me "Is this serious? Are they actually going to fight? Aren't we a little too old for this?"
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I think as children it's not so bad, because it teaches you that you have to stand up for yourself, and kids aren't going to do that much damage usually. The problem is that this same "stand up for yourself" mentality grows up with some people, until they feel that they have to defend themselves against every perceived threat or insult or else be perceived as a pussy. In most people rationality (hopefully) beats out that instinctive urge to get pissed, but comestimes this is simply not the case. Couple this with alcohol and you have a real problem.
I also think this is a symptom of a much larger problem: taking the small stuff way too seriously. We as a nation and as a global community are absolutely awful about this. To me, there is a small list of things to truly get freaked out about, and people freak out about the most inconsequential things.
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Being that my friends and I are all adults now, I honestly feel bad if one of them starts a fight, basically because it is unbelievably immature.
This became more apparent than ever when my one friend was about to get into a fight at a bar and this girl I hang out with was saying to me "Is this serious? Are they actually going to fight? Aren't we a little too old for this?"
im having issues processing this considering you piss in bags for others to clean up
Being that my friends and I are all adults now, I honestly feel bad if one of them starts a fight, basically because it is unbelievably immature.
This became more apparent than ever when my one friend was about to get into a fight at a bar and this girl I hang out with was saying to me "Is this serious? Are they actually going to fight? Aren't we a little too old for this?"
im having issues processing this considering you piss in bags for others to clean up
I'm surprised it took you this long to comment on that considering a comment he made in the first paragraph:
mowbs wrote:
I've seen my friend be attacked with a brick while he was urinating,
I gotta say, it was the first thing I thought about after reading that.
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Being that my friends and I are all adults now, I honestly feel bad if one of them starts a fight, basically because it is unbelievably immature.
This became more apparent than ever when my one friend was about to get into a fight at a bar and this girl I hang out with was saying to me "Is this serious? Are they actually going to fight? Aren't we a little too old for this?"
im having issues processing this considering you piss in bags for others to clean up
I'm surprised it took you this long to comment on that considering a comment he made in the first paragraph:
mowbs wrote:
I've seen my friend be attacked with a brick while he was urinating,
I gotta say, it was the first thing I thought about after reading that.
Haha...alright, alright.
Honestly, though. There was nothing abnormal about what my friend was doing when someone came up and tried hitting him with a brick.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:40 am Posts: 2114 Location: Coventry
Funny. I've never attacked someone when pissed.
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this thread makes me think about the evolutionary status of humans.
why does the human male still feel the aggressive instinct (especially when drunk) when there is no danger, no hunger, and no mates that need to be fought for?
is this something we are evolving out of, or is it something we are evolving into?
or has human evolution halted because we use technology to make progress?
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Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:40 am Posts: 2114 Location: Coventry
kiddo wrote:
this thread makes me think about the evolutionary status of humans.
why does the human male still feel the aggressive instinct (especially when drunk) when there is no danger, no hunger, and no mates that need to be fought for?
is this something we are evolving out of, or is it something we are evolving into?
or has human evolution halted because we use technology to make progress?
And all women are little princesses...
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Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:47 pm Posts: 13660 Location: Long Island Gender: Male
I've been retired from fighting for 5 years. Don King called me a couple of times to get back in he ring but i told him i'm done. I'm more than satisfied with my 6-21 record.
this thread makes me think about the evolutionary status of humans.
why does the human male still feel the aggressive instinct (especially when drunk) when there is no danger, no hunger, and no mates that need to be fought for?
is this something we are evolving out of, or is it something we are evolving into?
or has human evolution halted because we use technology to make progress?
And all women are little princesses...
i'm more aggressive than my mother and my grandmother...but I don't start fights.
for women, a comparable evolutionary example may be an over-compesating nesting thing, i.e. buy lots of shit we don't need (shoes, clothes, anything from pottery barn).
just a thought. not trying to rag on the men.
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