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I saw a truck with that bumper sticker on it. Would you really be "proud" to be a tobacco farmer? I mean tobacco has never improved anyone's life.
At best, you're enabling the self-destructive behavior of some people. I mean, people have a right to smoke, but it's clearly unhealthy. At worst, you're turning a profit by killing people with cancer. If I were a tobacco farmer, I would wonder how many people died to feed my family.
You can farm whatever people would buy, but I'd be as ashamed about being a tobacco farmer as I would be about being a porn mogul.
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Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:19 pm Posts: 39068 Location: Chapel Hill, NC, USA Gender: Male
Athletic Supporter wrote:
Poor auto worker. Responsible for so many deaths
Yeah, but you can make an argument that cars have benefitted society. Sure, there are accidents, and they speed up global warming, but there are positives too.
Tobacco has no positive side.
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B wrote:
Athletic Supporter wrote:
Poor auto worker. Responsible for so many deaths
Yeah, but you can make an argument that cars have benefitted society. Sure, there are accidents, and they speed up global warming, but there are positives too.
Tobacco has no positive side.
Neither does alcohol, do we damn the grain farmer?
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Athletic Supporter wrote:
B wrote:
Athletic Supporter wrote:
Poor auto worker. Responsible for so many deaths
Yeah, but you can make an argument that cars have benefitted society. Sure, there are accidents, and they speed up global warming, but there are positives too.
Tobacco has no positive side.
Neither does alcohol, do we damn the grain farmer?
Grain has no positive effects? Not to mention, beer or wine in small amounts is good for your heart. Tobacco is small amounts gives you cancer more slowly.
_________________ "Though some may think there should be a separation between art/music and politics, it should be reinforced that art can be a form of nonviolent protest." - e.v.
Yeah, but you can make an argument that cars have benefitted society. Sure, there are accidents, and they speed up global warming, but there are positives too.
Tobacco has no positive side.
Neither does alcohol, do we damn the grain farmer?
Viler words have never been printed. Especially heading into the weekend.
Joined: Sun Oct 17, 2004 12:59 am Posts: 18643 Location: Raleigh, NC Gender: Male
B wrote:
Athletic Supporter wrote:
B wrote:
Athletic Supporter wrote:
Poor auto worker. Responsible for so many deaths
Yeah, but you can make an argument that cars have benefitted society. Sure, there are accidents, and they speed up global warming, but there are positives too.
Tobacco has no positive side.
Neither does alcohol, do we damn the grain farmer?
Grain has no positive effects? Not to mention, beer or wine in small amounts is good for your heart. Tobacco is small amounts gives you cancer more slowly.
Whiskey, scotch, vodka, gin, etc....any of those good for you?
People have smoked since they learned how to burn things, I'm truly live and let live on this topic.
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Athletic Supporter wrote:
B wrote:
Athletic Supporter wrote:
B wrote:
Athletic Supporter wrote:
Poor auto worker. Responsible for so many deaths
Yeah, but you can make an argument that cars have benefitted society. Sure, there are accidents, and they speed up global warming, but there are positives too.
Tobacco has no positive side.
Neither does alcohol, do we damn the grain farmer?
Grain has no positive effects? Not to mention, beer or wine in small amounts is good for your heart. Tobacco is small amounts gives you cancer more slowly.
Whiskey, scotch, vodka, gin, etc....any of those good for you? People have smoked since they learned how to burn things, I'm truly live and let live on this topic.
Me too, and I think B is as well.
The point is would you be PROUD to be a tobacco farmer?
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punkdavid wrote:
The point is would you be PROUD to be a tobacco farmer?
It's a huge part of the regional economy where B lives, so you could be proud of that. I don't use my job as a source of personal pride, but some folks do for their own reasons and this farmer is a contributor to the economic well being of his area.
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Athletic Supporter wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
The point is would you be PROUD to be a tobacco farmer?
It's a huge part of the regional economy where B lives, so you could be proud of that. I don't use my job as a source of personal pride, but some folks do for their own reasons and this farmer is a contributor to the economic well being of his area.
But you could make that contribution in a million different ways. So, why would someone be proud that their paying their taxes w/ what is essentially blood money?
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B wrote:
Athletic Supporter wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
The point is would you be PROUD to be a tobacco farmer?
It's a huge part of the regional economy where B lives, so you could be proud of that. I don't use my job as a source of personal pride, but some folks do for their own reasons and this farmer is a contributor to the economic well being of his area.
But you could make that contribution in a million different ways. So, why would someone be proud that their paying their taxes w/ what is essentially blood money?
Because it's what they do? I don't know. People take "pride" in some weird things. "Proud to be an American"...what does that even mean?
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Athletic Supporter wrote:
B wrote:
Athletic Supporter wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
The point is would you be PROUD to be a tobacco farmer?
It's a huge part of the regional economy where B lives, so you could be proud of that. I don't use my job as a source of personal pride, but some folks do for their own reasons and this farmer is a contributor to the economic well being of his area.
But you could make that contribution in a million different ways. So, why would someone be proud that their paying their taxes w/ what is essentially blood money?
"Proud to be an American"...what does that even mean?
It means "My mother's cunt was located within the geographical boundaries of the United States of America when I was pushed through it".
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punkdavid wrote:
Athletic Supporter wrote:
B wrote:
Athletic Supporter wrote:
punkdavid wrote:
The point is would you be PROUD to be a tobacco farmer?
It's a huge part of the regional economy where B lives, so you could be proud of that. I don't use my job as a source of personal pride, but some folks do for their own reasons and this farmer is a contributor to the economic well being of his area.
But you could make that contribution in a million different ways. So, why would someone be proud that their paying their taxes w/ what is essentially blood money?
"Proud to be an American"...what does that even mean?
It means "My mother's cunt was located within the geographical boundaries of the United States of America when I was pushed through it".
And I don't draw a ton of pride out of that either.
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George Washington was a tobacco farmer...right?
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